Want to get rid of the ads? Become a member by registering today.
The Mariah Owners Club

Forum Left Top

Welcome to the The Mariah Owners Club.


Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

Mercury MerCruiser

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-18-2015, 04:14 AM   #1

Z225 Davanti is currently offline
Posts: 12
Status: First Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Victoria, MN
My Year: 1995
My Model: Z225 Davanti
My Engine: 5.7L Bravo III
Gallery Images: 12


Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send Z225 Davanti:
a Private Message
 
Default Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

Hello all -

I have a question and maybe just looking for some validation. I have 95 Davanti Z225 with a 350 and Bravo III. Last year my boat steering was all over the place... tons of slack in the steering and seems as though the only cause would be that the gimbal ring has gone bad.

So, I brought it to our trusty boat mechanic and after a few days he brings me the lengthy list of parts I need to do the repair... about $2200 in parts, plus he says is 10-12 hours of labor.

Now, I can find the parts online and save hundreds or could have opted for a JR Marine type fix (outdrive and ring is already off now)....

My question is: do I really need to replace ALL this stuff if the gimbal ring is bad?

For example:

- Trim Senders
- Gimbal Bearing Kit
- Gimbal ring
- Bellows
- Steering shaft assbly
- Shift cable assbly
- All nuts, washers, pins, plugs, etc

Seems excessive to me... thoughts???

He also mentioned that the engine coupler "seemed a little worn" but that was another 2k or so after labor. Whew... all together that's all almost what I paid for the boat!

Thanks in advance,
Adam
Reply With Quote
  • Old 05-18-2015, 11:16 PM   #2

    Z225 Davanti is currently offline
    Posts: 12
    Status: First Lieutenant
    Join Date: Jun 2014
    Location: Victoria, MN
    My Year: 1995
    My Model: Z225 Davanti
    My Engine: 5.7L Bravo III
    Gallery Images: 12


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send Z225 Davanti:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    Bueler?
    Reply With Quote
    Old 05-19-2015, 12:20 PM   #3
     
    Hudson River Steve's Avatar

    Hudson River Steve is currently offline
    Posts: 597
    Status: Platinum Contributor
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Lower Hudson Valley
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 1999
    My Model: Z280
    My Engine: 7.4L MPI Bravo3
    Gallery Images: 5


    Thanks: 1
    Thanked 90 Times in 87 Posts
    Send Hudson River Steve:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    The list of parts seems correct to me. If you have to replace the gimbal ring, all the parts listed are connected directly to it. I don't think your mechanic would want to use old parts on a new install. If something went wrong in a week, month or even a year and you had to tear into again...just think how pissed you would be.
    __________________
    Hudson River Steve
    1999 Z280
    7.4 MPI, Bravo3
    Reply With Quote
    Old 05-20-2015, 03:44 AM   #4
     
    Motoxxx43's Avatar

    Motoxxx43 is currently offline
    Posts: 1,169
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: Pueblo West, CO
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Shabah 250
    My Engine: 7.4 MPI Bravo I
    Gallery Images: 11


    Thanks: 86
    Thanked 75 Times in 75 Posts
    Send Motoxxx43:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    I purchased my Shabah250 with a messed up gimbal. The steering pin was worn as was its location in the gimbal. I took the gimbal rig off an had a machine shop build it up and machine it to the steering pin. Ended up costing me 400$ for the machine work I believe plus the pin and basically everything on your list. In retrospect I would have either A- sent it to JR marine an had them do it. They have the experience and know how to do a good job. OR B-http://m.ebay.com/itm/400134489977? And not have to pay the 1200 for the stock aluminum ring.

    I repaired my gimbal at 300 hrs (maybe less) and am almost at 500. Zero problems and still zero play.
    Reply With Quote
    Old 05-20-2015, 03:48 AM   #5
     
    Motoxxx43's Avatar

    Motoxxx43 is currently offline
    Posts: 1,169
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: Pueblo West, CO
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Shabah 250
    My Engine: 7.4 MPI Bravo I
    Gallery Images: 11


    Thanks: 86
    Thanked 75 Times in 75 Posts
    Send Motoxxx43:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    As for the coupler... They go out. If it looks questionable I'd have a hard time talking myself out of not doing it now as opposed to having it crap out while boating and getting towed in. When they go out you do not move...
    Reply With Quote
    Old 05-20-2015, 03:51 AM   #6

    Z225 Davanti is currently offline
    Posts: 12
    Status: First Lieutenant
    Join Date: Jun 2014
    Location: Victoria, MN
    My Year: 1995
    My Model: Z225 Davanti
    My Engine: 5.7L Bravo III
    Gallery Images: 12


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send Z225 Davanti:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    Thanks Motoxx... I've already bitten the bullet and am down the path to have it all done... Merc parts, Merc mechanic. Not the cheapest route, but I'll sleep well.

    Thanks for the reply though!

    Adam
    Reply With Quote
    Old 05-20-2015, 03:58 AM   #7
     
    Motoxxx43's Avatar

    Motoxxx43 is currently offline
    Posts: 1,169
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: Pueblo West, CO
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Shabah 250
    My Engine: 7.4 MPI Bravo I
    Gallery Images: 11


    Thanks: 86
    Thanked 75 Times in 75 Posts
    Send Motoxxx43:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    It sucks when this kinda thing happens at start of season! Time is valuable for sure!
    Your piece of mind will be worth it. When it's completed you will be good to go for seasons to come! That's how I look at it.

    PS I do like the OEM stuff. The pin an U bolt were the only non OEM stuff I used on the rebuild which was more in depth than just a ring an pin. Happy boating!!
    Reply With Quote
    Old 06-15-2015, 01:01 AM   #8

    emcgregor62 is currently offline
    Posts: 2
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Jun 2015
    My Year: 1995
    My Model: Z225
    My Engine: 7.4L
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send emcgregor62:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    Just bought a 1995 Z225 myself today, with a bad gimbal! Thanks to this forum I should avoid a heart attack when I go to the shop this week Looking forward to restoring her to pristine condition - I'll keep you posted.

    Thanks,
    Ed
    Reply With Quote
    Old 06-16-2015, 04:10 PM   #9

    cswinings is currently offline
    Posts: 58
    Status: First Mate
    Join Date: Jul 2014
    My Year: 1995
    My Model: z240
    My Engine: 7.4
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 1
    Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
    Send cswinings:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    Here's what really stinks.. I bought my boat with a bad engine, so I had the engine out to rebuild it, turns out I also have a bad gimble ring/steering assembly but I didn't know until after I put the motor back in and took it for a test drive. I could have done it all at once, but now I will have to pull the motor again... Doooooooooooooh!!!!
    Reply With Quote
    Old 06-16-2015, 07:15 PM   #10

    emcgregor62 is currently offline
    Posts: 2
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Jun 2015
    My Year: 1995
    My Model: Z225
    My Engine: 7.4L
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send emcgregor62:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Need Advice - Bravo III Gimbal Ring Replacement - Mechanic Advised

    Ouch - talked to my mechanic today and he believes it might just be an issue with the steering assembly, given the out drive has limited vertical play (from what I can see). Goes tot he shop later this week, so we'll find out.

    Thanks,
    Ed
    Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Bookmarks




    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     


    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    looking for advice for a tune up on 5.7 EFI Bravo III donly1 Mercury MerCruiser 9 04-16-2014 04:54 PM
    Gimbal ring Motoxxx43 Mercury MerCruiser 8 04-05-2013 08:58 PM
    Replacing Gimbal Ring on Shabah - more than a weekend job recelect Original Mariah Talk 16 09-02-2010 03:01 AM
    Gimbal Ring Repair Larry Original Mariah Talk 0 03-20-2010 06:52 AM
    Replacing Gimbal Ring rob Original Mariah Talk 1 07-10-2009 12:37 AM



    Forum Right Top
    Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom
     
    Right Left
    Member Login
    Forgot password?
    Forum LeftForum Right

    About the Club
    Age of the Mariah Owners Club:

    Total Members: 18,527
    Total Threads: 12,959
    Total Posts: 68,325
    Find us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Subscribe to Mariah Owners Club on YouTube
    There are 287 users
    currently browsing forums.
    Forum LeftForum Right

    Find us on Facebook
    Forum LeftForum Right

    Club Sponsors
    Right Sponsor





    Forum LeftForum Right
    Right Right
    Right Bottom Left Right Bottom Right