[jgreen]

Hi phlorida, I ran a 4 blade Mach Sterndriver prop on my old Searay 170 with the same power package. It was an 18 pitch. Hole shot was great. I could pull both my boys up on skis (took everything she had). Mach's not around anymore but Mercury offers some nice props as well as other companies.

[Phlorida]

OK, no more procrastination......I bent the crap out of my aluminum prop this weekend leaving a local restaurant. I ordered a SS prop from iBoats that is the identical configuration of my current prop which everyone seem to agree was perfect for the boat. (3 blade, 14 1/4" x 21p)

I had originally thought that I would have the aluminum prop reconditioned and keep it on the boat as a spare but now I am second guessing that. Beyond falling off, can much go wrong with a decent SS prop? Don't I really just need a spare hub on board?

[mikeyt]

Originally Posted by Phlorida

OK, no more procrastination......I bent the crap out of my aluminum prop this weekend leaving a local restaurant. I ordered a SS prop from iBoats that is the identical configuration of my current prop which everyone seem to agree was perfect for the boat. (3 blade, 14 1/4" x 21p)

I had originally thought that I would have the aluminum prop reconditioned and keep it on the boat as a spare but now I am second guessing that. Beyond falling off, can much go wrong with a decent SS prop? Don't I really just need a spare hub on board?

Having a spare hub will help with the minor impacts but if you bang it hard off a rock you will damage the SS prop. I would keep a spare around, whether its repairing the damaged one or looking for a used 20 - 21" 4 blade.

[Phlorida]

I had a chance to run the boat today with the new prop and got completely unexpected results. The old prop was a Mercury aluminum 14 1/4" x 21p. The new prop is a SS Stiletto with exactly the same specs to I had anticipated similar performance. With the previous prop I was getting 44mph at 4800 RPM WOT. With the new prop I am getting 42mph at 4200 RPM WOT - disappointing to say the least. It was windy today so I really didn't get a chance to test it out much but so far I am ready to dump the SS prop. Any thoughts as to why the performance hit?

[mikeyt]

Unfortunately if you move to a SS prop you normally have to drop 1-2" pitch for the same performance, particularly on a 4cyl sterndrive cuz it just doesn't have the torque to push the stiffer prop at that size. There may also have been a slight difference in rake etc which had some effect. A 19" 3 blade Stiletto would likely have given you the same rpms & performance. See if you can do an exchange?


btw...heres some test results i saw on a guy with a SeaRay 180 and the 4.3 engine....

14.25 x 21 Black Max (Good all around prop)
14 x 23 Black Max (Big mistake, don't ask, LOL)
14 x 21 Aluminum Hustler (couldn't get over 4600 RPM and lost a little speed)
14 x 19 Aluminum Hustler (OK... I guess)
13.625 x 21 Stainless Vengeance (not too bad actually, only the 14.25 x 19 Stiletto was better)
14.25 x 21 Stiletto (a bit too big for me, take off suffered)
14.25 x 19 Stiletto (The very best of the whole group, in all categories)
14 x 20 Alpha 4 (not impressed at all)

[Phlorida]

I can get my money back for the 21P. Another question for you all please. There is a great deal on a new SS Stiletto 14 1/8" x 19P on my local Craigslist. I went over to look at it and balked as it doesn't use a rubber hub like the 21" did, it has a round solid brass insert where the square rubber hub was on the 21". Otherwise it looks flawless. Any thoughts?

It is stamped with 10319 M1419 which seems to align to a Stiletto Advantage II.

[mikeyt]

I'm not quite clear on the hub used but does it look like this one or like this one? If not then here's Iboat's hub kit page.

I'm assuming also that the prop is hubbed for a Mercruiser and not some other application? Just another thought though, the Advantage II is designed for engines of 135hp and up. The Advantage I is for engines of 70 - 140hp.

[nglauer]

I'm running a Michigan Wheel 14x17 on my Diablo with the same power package as your boat. I had a 14x19 on it prior to eating a stick and damaging it.

My experience is that my 17p pops the boat out of the hole instantly. I nail the throttle 3/4 of the way and within a few seconds the boat is on plane and I can back off the throttle. RPM's max at around 4500 with a top speed of 38mph. I actually tested it out today and this was with my wife and a little under 1/2 tank of gas. My old prop only achieved around 42 mph ( I believe, but this was with passengers onboard.. more fuel, and I don't remember the RPM's I was running).

I plan on following your thread because I want to eventually buy another prop. I have my old one 14x19 which isn't in bad shape. I'm considering having it fixed and maybe repitched so seeing what you end up with may nfluence my decision.

Good luck,
Nick

[Phlorida]

Originally Posted by mikeyt

I'm not quite clear on the hub used but does it look like this one or like this one? If not then here's Iboat's hub kit page.

I'm assuming also that the prop is hubbed for a Mercruiser and not some other application? Just another thought though, the Advantage II is designed for engines of 135hp and up. The Advantage I is for engines of 70 - 140hp.

It doesn't look like either of those - it really doesn't have a hub per se. On the back of the 21P there is an empty, squarish cavity where the hub drops in. On the 19P there is a round piece of brass with a hole through it for the prop shaft - it doesn't appear that it can be removed. On the front of the 21p you drop a piece into the hub that fits onto the spline. On the 19P that piece is an integral part of the prop and cannot be removed.

It is for a Mercruiser. The guy bought it for a 4.3L but sold the boat before using it. The 3.0L is 135HP so I guess that either would work?

[Z 202]

I searched your part # and came up with this: 2008 Stiletto M1419 10319 Used -Excellent - AvidBoater.com

Which is odd, because I think the pictured prop has an OMC hub...