Want to get rid of the ads? Become a member by registering today.
The Mariah Owners Club

Forum Left Top

Welcome to the The Mariah Owners Club.


Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-14-2013, 11:13 PM   #1

dubldoc is currently offline
Posts: 8
Status: Stowaway
Join Date: Sep 2012
Find me on the Map
Gallery Images: 0


Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send dubldoc:
a Private Message
 
Red face Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

Hello everybody!! I desperately need help with my new 2001 Z-272 Shabah 8.2L, all comments tremendously appreciated.
#1- Got Screwed by seller, leakdown test shows 80# compression in one cylinder and idles rough..high end boat shop advises either run til blows up or pull heads and see if a valve job will do (290 hours), or full rebuild if not. I saw Merc gets 14k new, or Daddy-O marine in Ft Lauderdale will send a longblock from GM Marine for 7195 w/o shipping. Rebuild option is just as expensive but includes several hrs of dyno time from a race boat building company with a great reputation. My headers were pressure tested and they came out fine.

I don't mind spending an extra10K for a boat that commands such a devoted cult following..and I just WOWWW!!! all over when I rev the 500HP engine going under the bridge!!
I understand a few people did comment that water can sometimes enter the engine if stopped quickly,,I am not sure if there are OEM flapper valves on this boat or if they are recommended by others if not. My mechanic suggested I consider this.

#2: Seats are in poor condition. Any good advice on replacements for all of these seats?? Can I get some kind of a bolt on replacement for the electric adjustable seats?

#3: Suggestions for dashboard replacements?
Reply With Quote
  • Old 04-14-2013, 11:59 PM   #2
     
    csterner's Avatar

    csterner is currently offline
    Posts: 384
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Location: Ocala,FL
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2001
    My Model: Z275ST Shabah
    My Engine: 6.2L Bravo III
    Gallery Images: 9


    Thanks: 1
    Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
    Send csterner:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    Wow! Well, welcome aboard. Sorry you got screwed like that. Here is what I can help with...
    If you do not have straight thru hull exhaust, then Yes, you should have exhaust flappers that are located aft of your risers. If you have captains call exhaust, you should be able to remove the exhaust elbow and see them. They are important to keep water from back flowing into the engine. Your thru hull tips should also have flappers as well.
    Not sure of a bolt on placement for the seats. I was going to remove mine from the boat and take them in somewhere to have redone. Do the electric seats still work? Mine are still hanging on, but the vinyl needs redone.
    As far as dashboard replacement, good luck finding a complete replacement. I did the redneck fix on mine and it came out great. All I did was replace the switch actuators and literally used texture spray paint on the plastic. Sounds stupid but I don't have $1,000 to have a custom fiberglass piece made and have it dunk tanked with wood grain. So I am happy! Here is the link to that thread...

    Almost finished with dash




    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    __________________
    Chris
    2001 Shabah Z275 ST
    6.2L Merc with Bravo III

    Last edited by csterner; 04-15-2013 at 12:08 AM.
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-15-2013, 02:49 AM   #3
     
    Motoxxx43's Avatar

    Motoxxx43 is currently offline
    Posts: 1,169
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: Pueblo West, CO
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Shabah 250
    My Engine: 7.4 MPI Bravo I
    Gallery Images: 11


    Thanks: 86
    Thanked 75 Times in 75 Posts
    Send Motoxxx43:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    I am not sure of your mechanical abilities or tools/equipment at your disposal but 10k would be a lot to put into that 502. I would think having the motor pulled an rebuilt would not cost a 3rd of that. I'm sure there are some good shops down in your area too.
    As for the upholstery you'd have to call around or go meet with some people an get some solid prices. I had some stuff done at an auto upholstery place. They ordered in some marine vinyl an it came out great. Keeps us updated on the situation. Curious how the motor goes for you. I have right around 320 hrs on my 454.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-15-2013, 06:56 AM   #4
     
    Oregondunes's Avatar

    Oregondunes is currently offline
    Posts: 1,126
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Oct 2010
    Location: Tualatin, Oregon
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Z302 Bow Rider
    My Engine: 7.4 bravo3
    Gallery Images: 36


    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 51 Times in 50 Posts
    Send Oregondunes:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    here are some options:

    Nice 502 Mercruiser 390 HP engine for sale - Offshoreonly.com

    Pair of bbc 502s efi complete turn key - Offshoreonly.com

    Gen 4 bowtie 502 shortblocks - Offshoreonly.com
    __________________
    2000 Z302 Bow Rider
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-16-2013, 02:23 AM   #5

    dubldoc is currently offline
    Posts: 8
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Find me on the Map
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send dubldoc:
    a Private Message
     
    Smile Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    Thanks for the note! Yes, I have the captains call exhaust ($$$) and I will mention to my mechanic to look for the in line flapper. I don't see the flappers on the thru hull exhaust tips (4-5" chrome, right??)
    My electric seats work fine, but they do need a recover..I was thinking of getting an aftermarket seat to replace them if estimates for recover are too high, suggestions anybody?
    Rear power lift seat over engine bay works fine.

    Yes, I thought a GM marine longblock for 7200 was pretty damn good (Daddy-O in Ft Lauderdale), but my mechanic swears by his performance shop in Bradenton, with lots of dyno time thrown in. Rebuild for an 8.2L is WAYY more expensive than a 4.3 or 5.7 since you have everything from a roller cam to special 90mm high dome pistons, special rods, etc. ..I've seen lots of 5.7 rebuilds for 3500 for example. And my stock 8.2 is rated at 470 ponies..

    Luckily, I have a bit more $ than boatbrains, and I really want this project to come out right since I intend to spend a lot of time on the water..just not like the guy across the street from me who has a 41' Donzi with TWO 525 Merc HP motors..does at least 90+...went on the Poker Run last week and blew 5k on damage to a prop and skeg..too rich for my blood.
    I look forward to letting everybody know how things turn out.

    Oh, yeah..I'm told that with still water and a factory fresh engine I should pull 60+mph, anybody know orig factory top end??

    Last edited by dubldoc; 04-16-2013 at 02:29 AM. Reason: more info
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-16-2013, 02:32 AM   #6

    dubldoc is currently offline
    Posts: 8
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Find me on the Map
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send dubldoc:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    Thanks Oregon. I assume you have the rear thru hull chrome tip exhaust on your 302?? Do you have flappers on them?
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-16-2013, 03:41 AM   #7
     
    Oregondunes's Avatar

    Oregondunes is currently offline
    Posts: 1,126
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Oct 2010
    Location: Tualatin, Oregon
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Z302 Bow Rider
    My Engine: 7.4 bravo3
    Gallery Images: 36


    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 51 Times in 50 Posts
    Send Oregondunes:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dubldoc View Post
    Thanks Oregon. I assume you have the rear thru hull chrome tip exhaust on your 302?? Do you have flappers on them?

    no thru hull, only thru prop
    __________________
    2000 Z302 Bow Rider
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-16-2013, 10:59 AM   #8
     
    csterner's Avatar

    csterner is currently offline
    Posts: 384
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Location: Ocala,FL
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2001
    My Model: Z275ST Shabah
    My Engine: 6.2L Bravo III
    Gallery Images: 9


    Thanks: 1
    Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
    Send csterner:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    I have the stock captains call and the flappers for my thru hull are not on the outside like some, they are on the inside of the exhaust tube. Probably about 12" in from the outside.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    __________________
    Chris
    2001 Shabah Z275 ST
    6.2L Merc with Bravo III
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-17-2013, 05:45 PM   #9

    dubldoc is currently offline
    Posts: 8
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Find me on the Map
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 2
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Send dubldoc:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    Thanks Chris, I owe you for that!! I'll let my mechanic know. I am curious why SOME Cap'n call exhausts would have outside flappers, but not others..? Aftermarket add on's?? If anybody else could comment in that regard I'd appreciate! I'll have my guy look for any old mounting holes on the tips, but I don't remember any.

    PS, what is top end on you 275, and what HP rating??

    Last edited by dubldoc; 04-17-2013 at 05:51 PM. Reason: forgot..
    Reply With Quote
    Old 04-17-2013, 06:52 PM   #10
     
    csterner's Avatar

    csterner is currently offline
    Posts: 384
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Location: Ocala,FL
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2001
    My Model: Z275ST Shabah
    My Engine: 6.2L Bravo III
    Gallery Images: 9


    Thanks: 1
    Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
    Send csterner:
    a Private Message
     
    Default Re: Newbie needs help w/ Z-272 !!!

    No problem at all dude. I have a 6.2L in mine which I believe is 320hp. I typically can squeak 49mph with 4-5 people in flat seas and trimmed absolutely perfect. I have shown 50 on GPS before, but lets be conservative and say 48-49.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    __________________
    Chris
    2001 Shabah Z275 ST
    6.2L Merc with Bravo III
    Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Bookmarks




    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     


    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Newbie L&K's Z 190 Shabah Introductions 2 07-20-2010 11:07 AM
    Newbie 95gts Introductions 3 06-10-2010 08:49 PM
    Newbie Dmil Introductions 4 04-01-2010 12:28 PM
    Newbie! GageCreasy Introductions 2 08-29-2009 07:30 AM
    Another Newbie jaydubyabee Introductions 6 10-11-2007 03:44 PM



    Forum Right Top
    Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom
     
    Right Left
    Member Login
    Forgot password?
    Forum LeftForum Right

    About the Club
    Age of the Mariah Owners Club:

    Total Members: 18,525
    Total Threads: 12,958
    Total Posts: 68,324
    Find us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Subscribe to Mariah Owners Club on YouTube
    There are 154 users
    currently browsing forums.
    Forum LeftForum Right

    Find us on Facebook
    Forum LeftForum Right

    Club Sponsors
    Right Sponsor





    Forum LeftForum Right
    Right Right
    Right Bottom Left Right Bottom Right