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MariahMan 10-10-2007 03:46 AM

Gas vs. Diesel
 
Just curious what everyone prefers, Gas vs. Diesel and what brand.

So... vote in the poll and let us know what you use to tow your Mariah! If you have multiple tow vehicles, feel free to make multiple selections

dudders 10-10-2007 06:41 AM

I have a ford sedan towing my mariah but I would PREFER an AUDI 4x4 diesel :D
Now which bank to rob????:rolleyes:

Z 202 10-10-2007 01:17 PM

Jeep Grand Cherokee. 4.7L V8, gas, Quadra-Drive.

Comes complete with heated leather seats for those cold Canadian winters... ;)

mikeyt 10-11-2007 03:03 AM

and since the Fords are winning this so far......


1 - Did u know that 98% of all Fords ever built are still on the road today? The other 2% made it back home.

2 -how do you triple the value of a Ford?
put petrol in it

3 - You know the best thing Ford did? They circled their problem.

4 - Hey, did you hear about the new Fords......
they've got heated tailgates on 'em so your hands won't get cold when you're pushing them

5 - SHHHH! We are hunting Fords....keep your eyes peeled, they do not move often!

6 - What do you call a Ford with twin exhausts???
a wheelbarrow

7 - Why are there sidewalks beside most streets?
So Ford owners have a safe place to walk home.

mikeyt 10-11-2007 03:08 AM

and i use a Ford Escape XLT 4x4. It'll have to do until my wife saves up enough money to buy me a Land Rover 'Discovery'. :drool:

MariahMan 10-11-2007 04:31 AM

No LR3 for you Mikey? My uncle had a Discovery, said he hated it. Then again he took it on the trail. Doesn't look like much of a trail rig. A little top heavy for me.

No one out there with the new Toyota Tundra with the iForce v8? Now that truck is a beast.

dudders 10-11-2007 06:21 AM

Now MikeyT you really dont want a Discovery (yeah they do look good), but, my brother in law has one, I have driven it a few times, YUCK. It floats and rolls around corners like a bayliner with a bunch of overweight bikies on board. I almost got sea sick driving the bloody thing. Plus their services cost them a fortune, boats are bad enough, why double your expenses? Stick with a Toyota Landcruiser, or Audi A6. Now ya talkin.

Z 202 10-11-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyt (Post 2008)
and i use a Ford Escape XLT 4x4. It'll have to do until my wife saves up enough money to buy me a Land Rover 'Discovery'. :drool:

I've heard the Land Rover will go from zero to your mechanic in a little under 10 seconds... :rolling_laugh:

Of course I should talk, I drive a Grand. It's a good thing I'm handy... ;)

ShabahZ280 10-11-2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z 202 (Post 2022)
Of course I should talk, I drive a Grand. It's a good thing I'm handy... ;)

Amen to that!!

Of course my girlfriend still has her 07 Wrangler, but at least it's under the full warranty for another 30k miles. Didn't even have 200 miles on it before it's first visit back to the shop. :shakehead:

Z 202 10-11-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ShabahZ250 (Post 2026)
Amen to that!!

Of course my girlfriend still has her 07 Wrangler, but at least it's under the full warranty for another 30k miles. Didn't even have 200 miles on it before it's first visit back to the shop. :shakehead:

Last week it was the input speed sensor to the transmission. This week it's the electrical connection to the HVAC blower motor control. The blend and recirc doors need replacing, so now I just need to find a spare weekend in which to rip out the entire instrument panel assembly... :head_on_wall:

It's definately a love/hate relationship...

mikeyt 10-11-2007 04:13 PM

Good ol' North American iron.... :shakehead: Quality so bad it makes a Landie look good. :p

I do like the looks of the new trucks from Toyota & Honda though...and if they're as reliable and well built as their cars are, i could become a new customer.

ShabahZ280 10-11-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Z 202 (Post 2027)
The blend and recirc doors need replacing, so now I just need to find a spare weekend in which to rip out the entire instrument panel assembly... :head_on_wall:

It's definately a love/hate relationship...

That's one of the things I was glad to see gone when I sold it. I was quoted $2400 at the dealer to get my blend doors fixed. I just ended up using the windows! And it sucks DC knew about it and the millions of cars that were affected, and refuses to pay for their own mistake.

I will say, I did love that Jeep though. It ran like a champ, even with 120k miles. It pulled my Z250 as best as it could, which wasn't terrible. However, I just needed to step up to something bigger for the longer tows.

The Tundra is definitely a massive truck up to the task of towing, and it's specifically designed just for that. I would have seriously considered one if I had the budget. Speaking of which, do you canadians get to see the TV ads for the Tundra they run here?

Z 202 10-11-2007 04:47 PM

Blend doors
 
I still get heat and AC, but the diagnotic codes are telling me the repair is due.

The stealership fix isn't cheap. Apparently the parts are only a couple of hundred, the rest is the labour. There is a plenty of info on the internet for the DIY'er; which is me. I bought it knowing full well about having to fix it at some point. True it's a shame that Chrysler/Jeep isn't willing to pick up the tab on such a blatant defect.

I do love the Jeep though. The Quadra Drive is the bomb. I hear it's very adept a recovering stuck Land Rovers... :yes_grin:

Do you mean the Tundra commercial where they drop the payload over the cliff?

My cousin drives long term testers for an automotive TV show. The Tundra was one of his allotment. He was impressed. While not directly comparable, he drove a 4.7L Dakota for a while and said it was one of the nicest trucks he had ever driven.

MariahMan 10-12-2007 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShabahZ250 (Post 2032)
Speaking of which, do you canadians get to see the TV ads for the Tundra they run here?

Great commercials! Even better are the Tacoma commercials from a year or two ago. Now those were great! According to them the Tacoma is meteor-proof, cliff dropped - proff, ocean-proof, and lock ness monster-proof!

Found this too that you guys might enjoy!

http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/10/...d-of-warcraft/

:rolling_laugh::rolling_laugh::rolling_laugh:

BTW i drive a Toyota Tacoma!

WetWilly 10-12-2007 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyt (Post 2008)
and i use a Ford Escape XLT 4x4. It'll have to do until my wife saves up enough money to buy me a Land Rover 'Discovery'. :drool:

Hey mikeyt, and the great thing about Land Rover... They’re owned by FORD too!!!!!!!!!!:rolling_laugh:

Found On Road Dead owner too,
WetWilly

mikeyt 10-12-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWilly (Post 2042)
Hey mikeyt, and the great thing about Land Rover... They’re owned by FORD too!!!!!!!!!!:rolling_laugh:

Found On Road Dead owner too,
WetWilly


oh great....now i dont want one. :shakehead:

dudders 10-13-2007 06:39 AM

First
On
Race
Day

Fast
On
Road
Device

KSP181 10-14-2007 03:47 AM

I had a Land Rover and bought a 2005 Dodge Durango with the Hemi. There is no comparison. I love my Dodge! It tows my Mariah like it is not even there. Land Rovers were the best of the best at one time but that time has past!

MariahMan 10-18-2007 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dudders (Post 2069)
First
On
Race
Day

Fast
On
Road
Device

Not quite sure you have that first one right Tony. The way i've heard it is:

Fu****
On
Race
Day

:yes_grin::yes_grin::yes_grin:

BTW, i'm a Ford and Toyota guy but i still like making fun of ford, hehe. They make great trucks, but their cars over here in the states are POS's

UKZ275 11-27-2007 03:59 PM

From my side of the Pond best tow vehicles are:

Nissan Patrol, Mitsubishi Shogun (Pajero), Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon and being a Brit the best has to be the Land Rover Discovery 3 :wink_thumbup: (yes I know LR is owned by Ford, at the moment anyway)

mikeyt 11-27-2007 04:11 PM

I like the Discovery's too but the rest of these guys here aren't quite so 'sophisticated' as you & i :rolling_laugh: Even the Top Gear guys like them. :wink_thumbup:

S.L.P. 11-27-2007 08:51 PM

Tow vehicle: Chevy 1500
 
My tow vehicle is a 2000 Chevy 1500 LT 5.3L., extended cab, 4x4, w/ 3.73 axle.
It pulls the Z260 fairly well. I estimate the boat/trailer/equip to weigh 8000lbs +. The 4.10 would help. The truck wants to run faster than I like to tow. I towed the boat from Saratoga, NY to Ocean City Maryland w/ no trouble.
I would prefer to tow with a new '08 GMC 2500 Duramax!
steve

dwmax 12-01-2007 09:41 PM

what is ford
 
do you know what ford really stands for F = ****ed up O=old R=rebuilt D=dodge or how about F=foud O=on R=rode D=dead, F=****ed O=on R=race D=day, F=fixed O=or R=repaired D=daily,you know guys its been said that on a QUIET night you can even hear a ford rusting. Think about it would you really want one??? :worry_to_laugh: :yes_grin: :punch_out:

z275st 01-11-2008 04:32 AM

I used our Expedition for two seasons. Now I pull with a Toyota CrewMax.

John W.

jmills224 01-11-2008 01:04 PM

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I use both a 96 and 07 Toyota Tacoma to pull my 179SE Talari. Both are V6's and 4wd. The 07 with a 4.0L engine pulls it alot better than my 96 model.

bakdraft 03-13-2008 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWilly (Post 2042)
Hey mikeyt, and the great thing about Land Rover... They’re owned by FORD too!!!!!!!!!!:rolling_laugh:

Found On Road Dead owner too,
WetWilly

Not any more... Ford no longer own Land Rover. by the way you are all talking about the wrong Land Rover don't tow with a Discovery.... you need a Range Rover!

By the way, I use a Mercedes ML270 CDI Auto 4X4!

Dave

WetWilly 03-13-2008 02:40 AM

:(
Quote:

Originally Posted by bakdraft (Post 4648)
Not any more... Ford no longer own Land Rover. by the way you are all talking about the wrong Land Rover don't tow with a Discovery.... you need a Range Rover!

By the way, I use a Mercedes ML270 CDI Auto 4X4!

Dave

Hi Dave,

I believe currently, Ford still owns Land Rover and Jaguar. I know India's Tata Motors is trying to purchase Jag and Land Rover but according to this article, the deal may be in trouble……

It's been said that this could be a great blow to the British, one of their ex colonies now owning two of their flagship icons. We can only wait and see… :(

WetWilly

il_Mio 03-13-2008 06:57 PM

Hi there,

Mine is not on the list, it is a 10 year old Volkswagen Passat Syncro (permanent 4x4) TDI (Diesel). But that is a more downsized car if compared to the US standards. But hey, fuel is to expensive here in Europe anyway. (But I still dream of having a big US Pickup though ;-)

Regards,

il Mio

il_Mio

ShabahZ280 03-13-2008 07:31 PM

Revised poll to include Gas & Diesel "Other" :yes_grin:

mikeyt 03-13-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakdraft (Post 4648)
Not any more... Ford no longer own Land Rover. by the way you are all talking about the wrong Land Rover don't tow with a Discovery.... you need a Range Rover!

By the way, I use a Mercedes ML270 CDI Auto 4X4!

Dave

I dunno about that Merc but the Rangey would be my real preference.....if only one could keep it out of the repair shop. ;)

Z 202 03-13-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyt (Post 4676)
....if only one could keep it out of the repair shop. ;)

That's easy. Just don't drive it anywhere! :rolling_laugh:

bakdraft 03-25-2008 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWilly (Post 4652)
:(

Hi Dave,

I believe currently, Ford still owns Land Rover and Jaguar. I know India's Tata Motors is trying to purchase Jag and Land Rover but according to this article, the deal may be in trouble……

It's been said that this could be a great blow to the British, one of their ex colonies now owning two of their flagship icons. We can only wait and see… :(

WetWilly

It seems the deal is no longer in trouble and is about to be closed....... see this article

Dave

dudders 03-26-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bakdraft (Post 4648)
Not any more... Ford no longer own Land Rover. by the way you are all talking about the wrong Land Rover don't tow with a Discovery.... you need a Range Rover!

By the way, I use a Mercedes ML270 CDI Auto 4X4!

Dave

I towed my SX18 a few months ago with a Land Rover Discovery, my wife was following and said the back of the boat was going up and down, up and down. I realised it was because of the air suspension on the Discovery. What a pain in the a*se it was to tow with.


Land Rover / Jaguar have announced today that India's Tata motors purchased them. A real pity and by the looks of things a lot of British companies will be eaten up by profitable Indian companies.

Mariah Z276 04-03-2008 01:39 AM

I use a 02 Ford Power Stroke. I figure boat, trailer 125 gal of fuel plus all the gear and toys I am well over 10000 lbs. My truck sure knowes its back there but I have no real problem towing.

dudders 04-03-2008 02:21 AM

10,000lbs!!!!!! thats 4 1/2 tonne or 5 ton (imperial), bloody hell, you would need a Bradley Tank to tow that without noticing. :yikes: :Bradley:

Mariah Z276 04-03-2008 02:27 AM

If I am right my boat is 7500 lbs dryweight, 125 gal fuel, lbs triple axle trailer. My truck knows its back there. I bought a chip for my truck this year 60 more hp. I can't wait to try it out.

dudders 04-03-2008 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mariah Z276 (Post 5271)
If I am right my boat is 7500 lbs dryweight, 125 gal fuel, lbs triple axle trailer. My truck knows its back there. I bought a chip for my truck this year 60 more hp. I can't wait to try it out.


That big diesel must love the fuel on your truck, especially when you are towing, have you posted a pick of the whole setup?
I bet it takes up more than 6 parking spots like WetWillies does :eek_animated:

Mariah Z276 04-03-2008 03:02 AM

I havent posted any pics yet. But I am close to 60' long truck and trailer.

mikeyt 04-03-2008 03:05 AM

wow....you driving a Kenworth or a Mack? :rolling_laugh:

WetWilly 04-03-2008 10:43 AM

Geez, Mariah Z276, I'd say your truck/trailer/boat is close to 17000lbs and with that, my rig gets lost in your shadow!! :eek_animated:

WetWilly


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