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Oregondunes 08-22-2012 05:05 PM

Prop MD
 
Anyone know of these guys in Minnesota ???

Boat Propellers and Propeller Repair - from the Prop Doc at PropMD

bluelakeside 08-23-2012 04:22 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Hi Oregon,

Since I work about 10 minutes away from this business, I asked around. I haven't found anyone that has used them yet. I then I asked my Marine (Crow's Nest in Maple Plain, MN, whom I believe are the most trustworthy business I've ever dealt with), and they said they recommend another Minnesota company called BC Propeller. They get all their prop work done by them, and cautioned me to make sure that any prop repair company actually rebuild versus file them down. They've run into several customers whose props had been filed down (instead of rebuilt) and then sanded and painted to look as good as new.

I checked out the BC Propeller website, and while it is not as nice as PropMD, they do show pricing.

~bluelakeside

Oregondunes 08-23-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
The reason Im asking, is I wanna step up to a 28p prop. They have two sets and are willing to trade straight up for my 26's (which they have none and are more desirable to their customers).

Before I ship mine I wanna make sure they are legit.

Anyway you could just stop by and check em out ? Does the store look as good as their website, or are they running it from some guys garage in a dumpy side of town and are ready to beat feet at any moment and head South ?

Any assistance would greatly be appreciated.

bluelakeside 08-23-2012 08:33 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
I'll probably be able to stop by tomorrow, Saturday at the latest. The good news is that they are in a great area - within 10 minutes of some of the most expensive housing in the Mpls area (where many of the pro athletes live). If they were fly-by-night, they would not survive in this suburb very long.

Oregondunes 08-23-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
First good sign then.

woodward33 08-23-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Hey Oregon,

Not to hijack, but what are you hoping to get by pitching up to 28? Not being a troll, I'm genuinely interested as I don't know a whole lot about pitching.

I have 24's on my Z302 now and I feel like I hit the rev limiter way too easy.

Thanks,

Nick

Oregondunes 08-23-2012 09:47 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Mine too came with 24's. I too could easily hit 4400 (max revs). I stepped up to 26's and still do the same thing. although it's a lil slow pulling a skier out of the water now with a full boat of peps and a big load of fuel on board.

Id like to step up to 28's looking for more top speed. If I can hit 4400 then, Im gonna ship off my ECU to Az Speed and Marine for an upgrade/update. they claim they can reprogram and add 12-15 hp and increase max revs to 5200 (stock setting for both Mag and HO) and increase fuel economy 3-5 %. the cost is right at $400 for this mod.

This should propel us up and over 55 mph. I just want to make it fast enough to beat the ski boats on the river.

woodward33 08-23-2012 10:07 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
"This should propel us up and over 55 mph. I just want to make it fast enough to beat the ski boats on the river." This is key!

I'm really interested to hear how this goes for you. What are you maxing out at now? I hit 58 MPH in flat water 2 weeks ago with < 1/2 tank of fuel and 2 of us on board. Haven't considered the ECU modification but its probably well worth the $400 if it does what they claim it will. Do you think I would see any benefit to an ECU mod without switching my 24P props?

Oregondunes 08-23-2012 11:17 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
what motor do you have ? I have the std 454 MPI. It has a max rev of 4400 and 330hp

I hit 42.3 (gps), half tank of fuel, trimmed out on smooth water with 4 adults. I have the big smart tabs, adjusted almost flat with only (1) 80# shock installed on each side.

Increasing revs will turn the prop faster. faster prop = higher mph

The Az Speed mod is supposed to help with more HP at the bottom end, so this should help with bottom end grunt turning those bigger props.

Oregondunes 08-23-2012 11:22 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by woodward33 (Post 38656)
Hey Oregon,

Not to hijack, but what are you hoping to get by pitching up to 28? Not being a troll, I'm genuinely interested as I don't know a whole lot about pitching.

I have 24's on my Z302 now and I feel like I hit the rev limiter way too easy.

Thanks,

Nick

Nick

Do you have pics of your 302 here ? If so, can you post a link ?

bluelakeside 08-26-2012 02:54 AM

Re: Prop MD
 
I stopped by today, but they are not open on Saturdays. They are in a business park, nice location, looks to be pretty legit. At least they are not run out of some guys garage :)

Let me know if you need any other information.

~bluelakeside

Oregondunes 08-27-2012 03:22 AM

Re: Prop MD
 
thanks. Ill probably take a chance and trade with em.

HowardsZ302 11-20-2012 07:42 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregondunes (Post 38660)
what motor do you have ? I have the std 454 MPI. It has a max rev of 4400 and 330hp

I hit 42.3 (gps), half tank of fuel, trimmed out on smooth water with 4 adults. I have the big smart tabs, adjusted almost flat with only (1) 80# shock installed on each side.

Increasing revs will turn the prop faster. faster prop = higher mph

The Az Speed mod is supposed to help with more HP at the bottom end, so this should help with bottom end grunt turning those bigger props.




Did you ever go to the 28 pitch? I am thinking about switching from my 26 to a 28? My props currently are: Front 48-823667 A6 26P
Rear 48-823668 26P

Oregondunes 11-21-2012 04:25 AM

Re: Prop MD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HowardsZ302 (Post 40253)
Did you ever go to the 28 pitch? I am thinking about switching from my 26 to a 28? My props currently are: Front 48-823667 A6 26P
Rear 48-823668 26P

i did. though havent test em yet.

gonna pull the motor in the next few weeks for some HP up grades to pull those 28p props

HowardsZ302 11-21-2012 01:29 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
My engine guy told me that the motor I have is a new Jasper engine with all the bells and whistles. Bravo III lower unit and going to a 28 pitch should handle it with no problem and might give me a just a little more top speed. He says the reason I am not already getting 40plus mph is that the hull is painted with some really thick hull paint and is slowing me down skimming across the water. I guess that makes sense and probably need to get off the idea that I am going to speed her up much. It doesnt help that my nephew just bought a baja with twin engines.

Oregondunes 11-21-2012 02:44 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HowardsZ302 (Post 40288)
My engine guy told me that the motor I have is a new Jasper engine with all the bells and whistles. Bravo III lower unit and going to a 28 pitch should handle it with no problem and might give me a just a little more top speed. He says the reason I am not already getting 40plus mph is that the hull is painted with some really thick hull paint and is slowing me down skimming across the water. I guess that makes sense and probably need to get off the idea that I am going to speed her up much. It doesnt help that my nephew just bought a baja with twin engines.

what is your max rev limit ?

can you hit it now with the 26p props ?

Az Speed and Marine in Phx can for under $500 re-program the ECU and increase the rev limit. change spark advance to lean out of the lower revs and increase fuel economy (they claim) by 12-15%

HowardsZ302 11-21-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
I take it in on Tuesday for winterizing and I will ask them about the max rev limit. Whenever I had it running wide open I think it was showing 4400 rpm. Is the ECU something I can pull out myself and send to AZ Speed or will I need a mechanic to do that? I think he said I have a 454 fuel injected big block that could easily handle any mod's.

Oregondunes 11-23-2012 04:02 AM

Re: Prop MD
 
yep. ecu is located on top in left rear of motor on my 330 hp / 4400 max rpm 454.

the 454 can handle many mild mods. except high compression and high revs (over 5500 rpm). roller cam, lifters and rockers are an excellent way (along with re-map) to get 350-400hp

HowardsZ302 11-23-2012 09:56 PM

Re: Prop MD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregondunes (Post 40336)
yep. ecu is located on top in left rear of motor on my 330 hp / 4400 max rpm 454.

the 454 can handle many mild mods. except high compression and high revs (over 5500 rpm). roller cam, lifters and rockers are an excellent way (along with re-map) to get 350-400hp

Thanks i will keep you posted after I figure out what I 'm going to try.


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