Need advice regarding prop.(SC19, 190HP)

***mikeyt*** · 06-11-2008, 12:19 AM

hi Kyn

I dont know much about the Ballistic line of props. They do seem like more of a 'performance' prop than the Apollo with the highly cupped blades but then i read this at the Deep Blue site also:

Michigan Match and Ballistic propellers do not use the XHS™ Hub Kit. However, Deep Blue Yacht Supply always recommends an Apollo or Vortex propeller where appropriate, as the hub kit system will save you money in the long run, as well as being an equal to or higher performance propeller.

One of the main disadvantages of 'pressed in' hubs is that if you spin the hub, its not something you're going to be able to repair yourself. You will have to send/take the prop into a prop shop for repairs. Another disadvantage of the agressive rakes on this prop is that it will reduce your hole shot at the expense of higher top end performance. It's not designed to be a 'load' prop. Where it does shine though is cruising at the higher rpms although i understand it has a habit of venting in high speed turns which means you will have to tuck your drive in when doing this.

Looks like model 345134 is the correct Ballistic prop if thats what you want to go with. Model 993205 is the correct Apollo prop along with hub #102 if you go that direction.

*kyn* · 06-11-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyt

hi Kyn

I dont know much about the Ballistic line of props. They do seem like more of a 'performance' prop than the Apollo with the highly cupped blades but then i read this at the Deep Blue site also:

Michigan Match and Ballistic propellers do not use the XHS™ Hub Kit. However, Deep Blue Yacht Supply always recommends an Apollo or Vortex propeller where appropriate, as the hub kit system will save you money in the long run, as well as being an equal to or higher performance propeller.

One of the main disadvantages of 'pressed in' hubs is that if you spin the hub, its not something you're going to be able to repair yourself. You will have to send/take the prop into a prop shop for repairs. Another disadvantage of the agressive rakes on this prop is that it will reduce your hole shot at the expense of higher top end performance. It's not designed to be a 'load' prop. Where it does shine though is cruising at the higher rpms although i understand it has a habit of venting in high speed turns which means you will have to tuck your drive in when doing this.

Looks like model 345134 is the correct Ballistic prop if thats what you want to go with. Model 993205 is the correct Apollo prop along with hub #102 if you go that direction.

I agree! The same numbers I have looked up:-), hmmmmm.. this is not an easy desision doing over seas.

*kyn* · 06-12-2008, 09:03 PM

Anyone tried Mercurys "new" Enertia stanless steel propeller? I talked to some guys here in Norway, and they said that this superthin bladed prop. is really something compared to Michigan Ballistic and others. Mayby it`s just a hype? They cost over 500$

***mikeyt*** · 06-12-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kyn

Anyone tried Mercurys "new" Enertia stanless steel propeller? I talked to some guys here in Norway, and they said that this superthin bladed prop. is really something compared to Michigan Ballistic and others. Mayby it`s just a hype? They cost over 500$

And now you're throwing a 3rd prop (@ $500++) into the mix? If you keep adding prop choices here, it will be winter in Norway before your new prop shows up.

Basically, what characteristic are you willing to give up? Your choices are 1) Performance, 2) Cruiseability, and 3) Economy. Compromise means you go for performance and accept the resulting economy, or you go for cruisability and MPG and give up performance. Sharp rakes & thin blades are performance props.

From what i see the Enertia is designed to be a top end (rpm) performance / cruising prop and not a low rpm 'get you out of the hole' or 'pull a skiier' prop.

For what its worth, have a look at the Stiletto Bay Pro II also. It's a very good compromise prop. I have a friend with a 19' Regal and the 4.3 He runs a 20" pitch Stiletto and is very happy with its performance. The Apollo would be another good compromise prop worth looking at as they are very reasonably priced.

*kyn* · 06-13-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyt

And now you're throwing a 3rd prop (@ $500++) into the mix? If you keep adding prop choices here, it will be winter in Norway before your new prop shows up.

Basically, what characteristic are you willing to give up? Your choices are 1) Performance, 2) Cruiseability, and 3) Economy. Compromise means you go for performance and accept the resulting economy, or you go for cruisability and MPG and give up performance. Sharp rakes & thin blades are performance props.

From what i see the Enertia is designed to be a top end (rpm) performance / cruising prop and not a low rpm 'get you out of the hole' or 'pull a skiier' prop.

For what its worth, have a look at the Stiletto Bay Pro II also. It's a very good compromise prop. I have a friend with a 19' Regal and the 4.3 He runs a 20" pitch Stiletto and is very happy with its performance. The Apollo would be another good compromise prop worth looking at as they are very reasonably priced.

He he! I get it! I guess I will choose the Apollo 4-blade.

***mikeyt*** · 06-13-2008, 12:19 PM

You might want to also consider a set of Smart Tabs. They will help get you on plane quickly, reduce or eliminate that 'low speed wander' and help keep you on plane at lower speeds. They will be around $175-200 shipped to Norway and you can install them yourself in about 45 mins. I wont go into the full details here because we've discussed this numerous times elsewhere. Do a site search for "Smart Tabs" if you want to read more or visit the mfr site at www.nauticusinc.com

*kyn* · 06-14-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyt

You might want to also consider a set of Smart Tabs. They will help get you on plane quickly, reduce or eliminate that 'low speed wander' and help keep you on plane at lower speeds. They will be around $175-200 shipped to Norway and you can install them yourself in about 45 mins. I wont go into the full details here because we've discussed this numerous times elsewhere. Do a site search for "Smart Tabs" if you want to read more or visit the mfr site at www.nauticusinc.com

Just ordered

I have read a little about them, but didn`t notice the-low-speed-wandering argument. This is a serious problem with my Sc19