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Txtruckerpaul 06-23-2014 12:09 PM

Fariah depth gauge works....sometimes
 
Hi all. Finally my talari running good, but noticed yesterday at the lake that the in dash depth finder has a mind of its own. Most of the time it would show the depth reading, but then it would start flashing a zero for a few minutes and other times the readout would just be blank, then start working again. I checked wires, connections, etc. didn't matter if the boat was running or not. Any ideas?


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ColoradoDiablo 06-23-2014 01:04 PM

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Transducer has come loose from the hull Paul , more than likely.
It's under the engine.
Do a search "Depth Finder" or "Transducer" , lots of good info on repairing the issue.

Txtruckerpaul 06-23-2014 01:05 PM

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Ok, thanks!


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roger rowley 06-23-2014 09:20 PM

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I had something similar gauge all over the shop, the fluid was low.Topped it up with anti freeze seems ok now

mikeyt 06-23-2014 10:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roger rowley (Post 53511)
I had something similar gauge all over the shop, the fluid was low.Topped it up with anti freeze seems ok now

Huh??

Txtruckerpaul 06-23-2014 10:30 PM

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I was wondering the same thing, lol


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roger rowley 06-24-2014 01:35 PM

Re: Fariah depth gauge works....sometimes
 
If you twist off the top half of the transducer there is a viscous liquid to dampen the electric pulse, anti freeze works fine because its just the right viscosity

Txtruckerpaul 07-08-2014 11:32 AM

Re: Fariah depth gauge works....sometimes
 
Larry,
Could the transducer be in a different location? Only thing I have found under the engine is the bilge pump and the water inlet valve for the transom shower


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mikeyt 07-08-2014 12:41 PM

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It's either underneath the front of the engine or its on the transom exterior. Never seen them mounted anywhere else.

ColoradoDiablo 07-08-2014 01:19 PM

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Mine was almost up against the transom in the bilge area on the starboard side of the boat.
I 86'd it when I went to my Lowrance Sonar setup , as it didn't work anyway.(cut cable)
Can you chase the cable Paul , to see where it goes?

Txtruckerpaul 07-08-2014 02:33 PM

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I'll track the cable down from the harness and follow it down. I ordered a new gauge and transducer yesterday. Wanted a new gauge anyways since the face of mine is faded and cracked up pretty bad


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Andy b 07-08-2014 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roger rowley (Post 53536)
If you twist off the top half of the transducer there is a viscous liquid to dampen the electric pulse, anti freeze works fine because its just the right viscosity

What you have there sir is an oil bath transducer :wink_thumbup: (same as mine):D

Txtruckerpaul 07-08-2014 10:43 PM

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Maybe I just needed to change the oil in mine? Ha ha ha ha ha! Lol


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Andy b 07-09-2014 06:16 AM

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When I first got my boat the locking ring that was bonded to the boats hull was leaking so I had to constantly top up the oil...
I rebonded it down and it's been fine ever since.

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Bolo913 07-10-2014 01:40 PM

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Thanks guys for the info today, my depth gauge is all over the place also, and my speedo must be clogged up to. Can't wait to get to the lake and try these tips out on my '94 240z Talari,,,,,,,,,Wake on

Txtruckerpaul 07-10-2014 11:59 PM

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Got my new faria depth gauge in the mail today, so it's looking like a Saturday project since I'll be on call at work and can't go to the lake anyways. The destructions say to use silicone instead of epoxy to mount the transducer and use propylene glycol (anti freeze?) to fill the base. Sounds easy enoughAttachment 5626


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Txtruckerpaul 07-19-2014 07:32 PM

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Larry,
I chased the cable down and mine is in the same place as yours, I think. It's in an area under the motor that I can barely see and can't reach. I'm thinking would it be ok if I put it in front of the motor where it's a lot easier to access?


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ColoradoDiablo 07-19-2014 07:54 PM

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That is where I would install it Paul.:wink_thumbup:
Just make sure the cable is away from the pulleys/belts , and I'd say go for it.
Make sure it is pointing straight down as possible.

Txtruckerpaul 07-19-2014 07:57 PM

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Good deal. I have a good open spot below the fuel pump on the very bottom. I'll put it there and see how it works tomorrow. Thanks!


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ColoradoDiablo 07-19-2014 08:02 PM

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:wink_thumbup:

Txtruckerpaul 07-21-2014 02:32 PM

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Morning, Larry,
Got the boat out yesterday and tried out the new depth finder. It started working as soon as I got it in the water. After a little while, it would flash 0.0 if I was sitting still or idling around. When I sped up and planed out, it would start giving correct readings.turning it off an back on had no effect. Can't figure this one out. ??? Have been curious too about the top speed of the boat, so I got a GPS and got a top speed of 48mph with 5 people onboard but still has that wot bog. I can get it almost all the way open, but put the throttle all the way down it it bogs out. Very annoying, but that's a different problem to fix on another day. Any ideas about the depth gauge?


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roger rowley 07-21-2014 02:58 PM

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Whats a wot bog? Pls enlighten me as to these American colloquialisms sweet patch,in the hole ext, I have seen on this site "fascinating"

Txtruckerpaul 07-21-2014 03:17 PM

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Roger, it's wide open throttle bog. When I open the throttle up all the way, the engine loses all power and acts like it want to die


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ColoradoDiablo 07-21-2014 03:33 PM

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Paul ,
Did you set the keel offset on the unit?
Does it stay at 0 with engine off?

Txtruckerpaul 07-21-2014 03:43 PM

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I set the keel offset at 2ft. Just tried something with a weird result- boat is on the trailer at home. Filled the bilge full of water from the garden hose. No change in the 0.0 flashing. Didnt expect that to change since it's on the trailer. Got the water level above the transducer. I unlocked the transducer from the base while submerged and immediately got a steady reading of 1.6 and the shallow alarm started going off (I had that set at 4ft). I did fill the base with 2.4 oz of anti freeze like the instructions said. When I unlocked the transducer from the base, it filled with water and began reading steadily. Think it might not have had enough antifreeze in it?


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ColoradoDiablo 07-21-2014 03:47 PM

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Let us know. :wink_thumbup:

Txtruckerpaul 07-21-2014 03:50 PM

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I sure will. It'll be the weekend after next before I can get her back on the water again (on call at work). Have a water pump to replace and maybe an alternator, too, in the meantime.


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roger rowley 07-21-2014 04:12 PM

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Thank you Paul, got that. Incidentally re the anti freeze I switched from that to mineral oil [a laxative from the pharmacy believe it or not] a bit thicker still go's 7.2 7.6 6.8. I must have al lot of fish in my river or its back to the drawing board.

Txtruckerpaul 07-21-2014 04:28 PM

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Welcome, Roger! I have heard of some udon mineral oil and other use the ethylene glycol (anti freeze). The instructions I have from faria with my new depth finder says to use the anti freeze, but airmar, who I believe manufactures the transducers for faria, says to use mineral oil. If mine still isn't working right on my next trip out, I'll try the mineral oil. Just for kicks and giggles, I may ask my pharmacist for a bottle of transducer laxative. Hahaha


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roger rowley 07-21-2014 04:34 PM

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Gives the expression go's like **** a whole new meaning!!

Andy b 07-22-2014 09:47 AM

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Just plain old engine oil in mine. Never had any issues with it...
(Eccept when the ring leaked out the oil)
Re bonded now and reads true at all speeds :-)

Txtruckerpaul 08-05-2014 12:20 PM

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Update- filled the transducer mount full of mineral oil (quite a bit more than the 2.4 ounces that the instructions call for), got out on the water Sunday and it worked flawlessly all day.

roger rowley 08-05-2014 01:27 PM

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Which oil was it Paul, Did you fill it to the top?

Andy b 08-06-2014 07:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roger rowley (Post 54678)
Which oil was it Paul, Did you fill it to the top?

Don't fill the ring to the top!
Fill it just over half way or when you screw the transducer in it'll overflow and make a mess in the bilge :rolleyes:

Txtruckerpaul 08-14-2014 01:34 PM

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I filled it about three quarters if the way full of mineral oil. I did have some shop rags place around it to stop any spills. A little did run out when I snapped it together, but the rags made for an easy cleanup


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