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scb8mp 05-21-2014 08:22 PM

Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
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I just bought a 1995 Talari and the head unit that was once in the boat is missing. It still has two 6.5" speakers under the port and starboard consoles. I'd like to install a new head unit, but I'm unsure where to start with the wiring. There is a mess of wires going into the fuse box, but nothing is labeled. Does anyone have experience with this or a wiring diagram?

mikeyt 05-21-2014 09:55 PM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
Have you checked for the stereo wiring harness down inside where the stereo is mounted? Mariah always labeled their wiring so unless someone cut it off it should be there.

scb8mp 05-21-2014 10:16 PM

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Ahh, I guess I just needed to look harder. So I take it that if I buy a new stereo, it will come with a different wiring harness and I'll have to cut the old one off and match up all of the wires?

ColoradoDiablo 05-21-2014 10:30 PM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
Buy a Kenwood , Alpine , or Pioneer head unit and it is plug and play. :)

scb8mp 05-22-2014 12:33 AM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
That's an awesome tip, thanks guys

scb8mp 05-28-2014 10:26 PM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
So I took your advice, an bought a new Kenwood marine stereo. Installation was super easy, the harness was plug and play as promised. The problem is that even with the volume all the way up, the speakers sound super quiet. I wasn't expecting home theater level sound quality, but you can barely hear the audio with the volume cranked up to max.

I'm using the original speakers that came with the boat, so they could very well be bad. Does this sound like a problem with the speakers or something wrong with the stereo installation? I already played around with the Fade/Balance settings and couldn't make it sound any better.

ColoradoDiablo 05-28-2014 10:53 PM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
I'd say speakers too , but did you make sure the wiring for the speakers (+ & -) are connected right?
Just a thought........does the deck have mute? Maybe it is on.

scb8mp 05-29-2014 02:19 AM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
Don't think there is any mute setting on. Could this type of problem be caused by a bad ground?

doaclnr 05-29-2014 02:26 AM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
Check for an amp somewhere. I had that problem and found a bad amp.

scb8mp 05-29-2014 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by doaclnr (Post 52696)
Check for an amp somewhere. I had that problem and found a bad amp.

Shouldn't I just be able to bypass the amp, and run the speakers right off the head unit? The one I have is the KMR-308 and it's rated for 22W RMS x 4. Should be plenty to power a couple of small 5" speakers.

mikeyt 05-29-2014 02:35 AM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
You are just going to have to trace wires and ensure that each connection is clean, secure and correct as it definitely sounds like a wiring issue You could also check to see if you have a speaker A-B switch that's in the wrong position. One other thing you could try is to disconnect each speaker one at a time to see if there is a short in one of them but trace the wires first.

And yes to your query about the amp but if you are using the plug & play method & there is an amp, you have to connect the blue wire to it or run new wiring to each speaker.

ColoradoDiablo 05-29-2014 02:44 AM

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The 308 has a bunch of options for the audio end of the unit. Have you gone thru the manual well?
Only other option is to start checking connections from head unit back.:(

doaclnr 05-29-2014 02:58 AM

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Nothing worse than electrical ghosts!!! :mad:

Brewfixer 05-29-2014 04:35 AM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
Had this same issue with mine. I gave up. Started from scratch and ran my own wiring, upgraded speakers, head unit, added subs and amps. Done. It's a good day project but you get to design it your way... Good Luck

doaclnr 05-29-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewfixer (Post 52707)
Had this same issue with mine. I gave up. Started from scratch and ran my own wiring, upgraded speakers, head unit, added subs and amps. Done. It's a good day project but you get to design it your way... Good Luck


Yup, I did the same thing. I used a Kenwood head unit, Memphis Audio 6.5 speakers and sub and JL audio amp. It was a good day project and well worth it in the long run... :wink_thumbup:

scb8mp 05-29-2014 08:47 PM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
Thanks for all the help guys, sounds like running my own wiring is the way to go. Is there a trick for the easiest ways to run the wires between the consoles?

Brewfixer 05-29-2014 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scb8mp (Post 52731)
Thanks for all the help guys, sounds like running my own wiring is the way to go. Is there a trick for the easiest ways to run the wires between the consoles?

Buy lots of Band-Aides!:yes_grin:

But seriously, invest in a electrical fish tape if you don't own one already to help pull wires around the boat. You can pick one up fairly reasonable at Harbor Freight or your local big box home improvement store.

Reachderek 04-01-2016 01:16 AM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
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Originally Posted by Brewfixer (Post 52707)
Had this same issue with mine. I gave up. Started from scratch and ran my own wiring, upgraded speakers, head unit, added subs and amps. Done. It's a good day project but you get to design it your way... Good Luck

So I am wanting to install an amp in my 2000 z212 Shabah but I'm not sure how to go about running the wires. How did you install your amp and how did you run the wires?

Txtruckerpaul 05-03-2016 09:12 PM

Re: Help with Stereo Install on '95 Talari 180
 
I installed my amp in my '96 Talari inside the locker on the driver's helm. The back side of the kick panel is a good place to mount it. I ran all my own wiring and wasn't very difficult. I even ran wiring for a remote stereo control over to the passenger helm. All the wires for the remote and the speakers run along the inside of the bow. There are other wires there, I simply ran my new wires along the existing ones and zip-tied them together. I've had it installed for going on two years now with no problems ever


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