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nglauer 07-14-2013 02:55 PM

Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
I was cruising "zoomthelist.com" today and stumbled across this 01 Diablo. It looks like the interior has had work along with the carpet, and gelcoat? Or... did mariah offer a black dash, carpet, and hull? Atleast i think it's black.

2001 18' Mariah 180 Diablo

Just curious - it looks like it needs some love.. but for $5000.00 it might be a good deal. My boat on the other hand (in my opinion) is in excellent shape. If this one has an asking price of $5000.00, I wonder what mine is worth? The only flaw mine has other than a little rust on the trailer - is the one piece of glass is now lexan (which still bums me) but it doesn't seem to be noticeable to anyone but myself.

Edit:
Actually...let me restate that I feel that mine, in it's original condition is very good. I don't think I would say excellent until I find a piece of glass - if ever. I also plan on refinishing the trailer this summer - so it will have a new coating of monsterliner to finish it off. I've already replaced bearings, added bearing buddies, rebuilt the winch and added factory covers to it, replaced all lights (USA made LED) and wiring. Once I find a new pair of the coiled cable style safety chains I will replace mine (or rather move them to my utility trailer since they do show some wear.

Andy b 07-14-2013 03:32 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Any boat is only worth what somebody is prepared to pay for it...
Looking at that Ad I would suggest me and the seller have different idea's about "very clean and very well maintained"
If it's been used as a second or even third boat, and left standing for long periods of time as suggested then this poor old girl has been treated badly, Trust me on that!

All this taken into consideration and the fact that's it's a 4 pot I would say it was over priced! but hey you guys know your market better than I do.

As for the colour scheme ShabahZ280 could probably answer that if you got hold of the HIN number

you after another boat then Nick?

nglauer 07-14-2013 03:49 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Not right now.. I'm actually thinking about buying my grandparents property and house - if so I might be selling the Mariah for the short term - and hopefully stepping up to a slightly bigger boat with a cuddy sometime down the road. Having my recent back surgery, a change in work projects, and now what has seemed to be "never ending" thunderstorms has been frustrating to say the least. My boat is still covered, still winterized, and has yet to see any water gliding below it's hull - instead it's only seen the type that falls from the sky upon it lol.

I would like a cuddy though so the kids could get out of the sun, and if it's not to unbearably hot...a place for them to take a nap after spending time on the lake or river. We used to go camping at one of the local lakes when I was younger and there was a family that used their boat instead of a tent after spending the evening on the water. They had a full camper top, and a nice folding staircase that they setup on their camp spot along with a big screen canopy for their picnic table. Since we recently sold our camper, I think a boat with "some" sleeping space would be a good compromise between buying another camper or a tent. I don't know though - that's thinking into the future and who knows that that will hold. I'm in no hurry to sell, if I ever sell. The boat will be officially paid off this year.. so I was only thinking about finding it a new home to help with the down payment or remodeling purposes. Then again, grandpa had a huge garage with enough space for the boat,the big Farmall tractor, my 2 Bolens tractors, and 4 cars... so I'd hate to have empty space that a perfectly good boat and other toys could live in lol.

Nick

Andy b 07-14-2013 04:01 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy b (Post 46637)
you after another boat then Nick?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nglauer (Post 46638)
Not right now.. I'm actually thinking about buying my grandparents property and house - if so I might be selling the Mariah for the short term - and hopefully stepping up to a slightly bigger boat with a cuddy sometime down the road. Having my recent back surgery, a change in work projects, and now what has seemed to be "never ending" thunderstorms has been frustrating to say the least. My boat is still covered, still winterized, and has yet to see any water gliding below it's hull - instead it's only seen the type that falls from the sky upon it lol.

I would like a cuddy though so the kids could get out of the sun, and if it's not to unbearably hot...a place for them to take a nap after spending time on the lake or river. We used to go camping at one of the local lakes when I was younger and there was a family that used their boat instead of a tent after spending the evening on the water. They had a full camper top, and a nice folding staircase that they setup on their camp spot along with a big screen canopy for their picnic table. Since we recently sold our camper, I think a boat with "some" sleeping space would be a good compromise between buying another camper or a tent. I don't know though - that's thinking into the future and who knows that that will hold. I'm in no hurry to sell, if I ever sell. The boat will be officially paid off this year.. so I was only thinking about finding it a new home to help with the down payment or remodeling purposes. Then again, grandpa had a huge garage with enough space for the boat,the big Farmall tractor, my 2 Bolens tractors, and 4 cars... so I'd hate to have empty space that a perfectly good boat and other toys could live in lol.

Nick

Sooo that's a No then! :rolleyes:

nglauer 07-15-2013 02:02 AM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
It's a "I'm not sure" lol. I don't think I would have any issues selling it. I'm not sure what it is actually worth but the 3.0l is a popular motor here because of the price point and economy. If I could get 7-8 out of it I would be very happy. Seeing that other Diablo I'm think even 6-6500 wouldnt be unfair.. but again I have no clue on what it's worth to someone else :)

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ShabahZ280 07-15-2013 02:07 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Nope, that's definitely not a factory gelcoat finish, especially with that lower white strip, I've never seen anything like that before, especially on a Diablo. Diablos were the entry line boats with the most limited amount of options available. I'd be about 98% positive saying that's not a factory gelcoating...

nglauer 07-15-2013 02:10 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
I didn't really understand what they were going for with that paint job. I have a feeling that close up pictures might show that it wasn't redone properly. .. but probably with a brush our rattle cans

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nglauer 07-15-2013 02:18 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
ShabahZ280 - was the seating arrangement in the Diablo based on the motor configuration or was it optional? I have the 3.0l merc with the large fiberglass motor cover and the fold flat back to back passenger seat. I like the idea of the large bench and bigger sun pad... which I've seen in every Diablo except mine

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nglauer 07-15-2013 02:28 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
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My seat configuration

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ShabahZ280 07-15-2013 03:20 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
You know, that's an interesting question. I looked it up in the 2001 brochure, and there's a section on the "Standard Features" of the Mariahs. It has a photo of the motor box and says this:

"Custom fiberglass motor boxes, on all standard interior Mariahs provide additional insulation to minimize engine noise"

I'm guessing your interior is what they called "standard" and the bench was the "supersport" interior, which is one of Mariah's most popular layouts...

nglauer 07-15-2013 03:25 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
I like our layout.. we ended up with extra cup holders because of it lol. Also....only skinny sun bathers fit on it too lol

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nglauer 07-15-2013 03:26 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
It's easier to get in and out since the bottoms of the seats are removable... so I guess that's a plus

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Andy b 07-15-2013 07:27 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nglauer (Post 46665)
I'm not sure what it is actually worth but the 3.0l is a popular motor here because of the price point and economy.

Is this true???
I didn't think the price of gas (or petrol to give it it's correct name :D)
was such an issue over the pond.
I would have thought the 4.3 was a much more popular package.
It is here even with the price of "PETROL!"

mikeyt 07-15-2013 07:34 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy b (Post 46725)
Is this true???
I didn't think the price of gas (or petrol to give it it's correct name :D)
was such an issue over the pond.
I would have thought the 4.3 was a much more popular package.
It is here even with the price of "PETROL!"

I haven't seen any sales numbers but i have a buddy who sells boats for a living. His comment was that he only sells boats with 4 bangers to "old people, neurotic people and to those who are afraid of stopping at fuel pumps". Personally i wouldn't consider a boat with the 3.0 unless it was smaller than the 18' i have now. For me, sipping fuel is its only benefit.
:)

nglauer 07-15-2013 08:35 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Well.. the local Glastor dealer has 7 new boats that just came in. 5 of which were 3.0l, with the cost to enter into boating, especially with the added cost for fuel injection.. I can understand why they have so many in stock. Most of the "newer" (as in the age of the boat) boat owners i know either have 3.0 or 4.3 motors. They sell lots of pontoon boats and bass boats in this area as well. Don't get me wrong, I would love to own a new boat with a V8... but the price to pay is to high for us. So I guess I would have to fall under the "poor & neurotic" category :P

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nglauer 07-15-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
I wouldnt buy a bigger boat with this motor though. It would have to be a 4.3 or bigger

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mikeyt 07-15-2013 08:58 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Nick, rather than posting numerous posts with one or two sentences then immediately following up with another post on the same subject, why dont you simply edit your previous post and add in your latest thoughts?

mikeyt 07-15-2013 08:59 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nglauer (Post 46730)
So I guess I would have to fall under the "poor & neurotic" category :P

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ummm. yep. ;)

ShabahZ280 07-15-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
That's why it was only offered on the 18's. A conservative general rule is:

16-18ft: 3.0L
18-20ft: 4.3L
21+: V8

My first boat was a 180 Sea Ray with the 4.3L and it was the perfect combo. It handled pretty decent top speeds, watersports, my fat friends, and I never felt like it was underpowered. My friend had a 18' Stingray with the 3.0L, and it would do pretty good with just about everything, but was a little sluggish when tubing. Just don't let the V8 bug bite ya too hard... He did, and his next boat was a 24' Baja with a 502 Mag... :eek_animated: That boat would do 72mph and it scared the ever-living $hit out of me every time I rode in it. When we were doing 70mph on the river and the wind caught us under the bow and damn near stood us straight up in the air at that speed, that was when I decided speed wasn't for me, and I'm perfectly happy with a boat that'll do 30-40 tops.

Andy b 07-15-2013 09:23 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
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My friend had a 18' Stingray with the 3.0L, and it would do pretty good with just about everything, but was a little sluggish when tubing.

Hahaha! this is a small world.
Here's my mate's 18' stingray/3.0L and I agree with the above statement :wink_thumbup:

The one thing I will add about the power from the 3.0L is it doesn't have the punch to get the boat out of the water.

nglauer 07-15-2013 10:00 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
I like the look of that stingray. Does he have smart tabs though?

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mikeyt 07-15-2013 11:49 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy b (Post 46736)
Hahaha! this is a small world.
Here's my mate's 18' stingray/3.0L and I agree with the above statement :wink_thumbup:

The one thing I will add about the power from the 3.0L is it doesn't have the punch to get the boat out of the water.

I used to have an early 90's Stingray. That thing was built about as strong as a Clorox bottle... Used to move pretty good though with a 150 Evinrude on the tail. And before Nick asks, no 'Smart Tabs' didn't exist when i had that boat but it was a perfect candidate for a pair. I just couldn't bring myself to install one of those damm hydrofoils so i sold it off and bought the Mariah.

Andy b 07-16-2013 12:10 AM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Chlorox bottle?....had to Goggle that......:rolling_laugh:

ColoradoDiablo 07-16-2013 01:08 AM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
A glorified............Bay...........well you all know the rest of the story!:rolling_laugh:

woodward33 07-16-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Is this a factory paint job on this 01 Diablo?
 
Seating configurations were optional on that boat.

And +1 for the "not a factory paint job." Looks like the dashes were removed and painted as well. Sadly, I would have to agree that a close inspection of this boat would probably reveal that it wasn't done the "right way."


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