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Old 12-24-2012, 11:11 PM   #1
 
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Default 2000 z250

I have been looking at some Z250 's lately. In doing this I have noticed a few things between Z models, some even the same year. One of the things that stood out to me is some have the Bravo I an some have the III. What is the significance in that? Another thing I noticed is some have two control levers and some have one. I don't know if that is because of the Bravo I or III.
Some are listing captain's choice an some are showing silent choice- I thought they were the same.
Silly questions I'm sure. Hoping maybe the z250 guys know somethings one may want to watch out for as well.
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    I don't know about the other things, but the terms silent choice and captains choice are indeed interchangeable.
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    If my memory serves me correct the bravo III is a dual prop and bravo II and alpha is single props. also I believe that the Alpha I and B-III are for higher HP engines. The throttle I believe was a order from factory and came standard on some models. I have had both and I like the engine and throttle lever separate. But I also never had a problem with the combo setup. I hope what i say is correct and helps you out.
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    Well thanks for the input. I continued to snoop around. Seems like the Bravo III has a little more control, more maneuverable. The thing that was interesting me was the separate drive/throttle setup.
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    One problem with the duo prop is there is more parts to go bad. I had a Volvo Penta duo prop out drive, never had problem with it but the extra cast was always in the back of my head. You will like the separate trans/throttle levers once you get used to using them.
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    Yes, silent choice and captains call means the same thing. I don't think the dual lever was an option from the factory was it? I have always wanted the dual lever, but they are ridiculously expensive for some reason....


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    I believe the Kiekhafer shifters (transmission & throttle) were standard on the Z250's and the Z250LE's, and the Z300's. It's a great feature and once you get the hang of it, it's very fun to drive.

    The Bravo 3 is definitely preferable. Maneuverability is the key. I have the Bravo 1 in mine, only because the factory equipped B3 was stolen, and replaced with a B1 prior to me purchasing it. To be honest, the B1 has a bit of "prop walk" which makes it a little challenging to maneuver in tight quarters. When I got the Z280 (with B3), despite the boat weighing 3000 lbs more, I was able to dock it much easier than the Z250. Yes, the B3 is a bit more expensive to replace if anything would go wrong, but if you can find a Z250 with the B3, that's the combo to have.
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    I believe the Kiekhafer shifters (transmission & throttle) were standard on the Z250's and the Z250LE's, and the Z300's. It's a great feature and once you get the hang of it, it's very fun to drive.

    The Bravo 3 is definitely preferable. Maneuverability is the key. I have the Bravo 1 in mine, only because the factory equipped B3 was stolen, and replaced with a B1 prior to me purchasing it. To be honest, the B1 has a bit of "prop walk" which makes it a little challenging to maneuver in tight quarters. When I got the Z280 (with B3), despite the boat weighing 3000 lbs more, I was able to dock it much easier than the Z250. Yes, the B3 is a bit more expensive to replace if anything would go wrong, but if you can find a Z250 with the B3, that's the combo to have.
    Well thanks for the input on the two. The one I am looking into is the Bravo I though. I Read some other articles and they all explain the same things you just mentioned. The handling being the big reason to have the III. I have not found a pro/con to the double blade like I was thinking something along the lines of fuel economy or cruising speeds being different.
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    B1's are the choice for speed. They have less drag and less weight than the B3's. They take longer to plane, but have a higher top speed. The offshore guys prefer them much more than the B3's. They say supposedly B3's are only rated to 55mph, although I don't necessarily believe that claim.

    The advantages of the B3 is the true tracking in forward/reverse for maneuverability, better planing, better holeshot, and better mid range cruising efficiency. However, there are some disadvantages to the B3. First and foremost, the cost. If you have to replace the drive, it will run you about $10k+. Secondly, there's an inherent corrosion problem due to the aluminum used in the housing, and the stainless used in the props. But think about these things realistically for a second. How often will you be replacing the entire drive? Buy a sterndrive lock or two, and you'll never have your drive stolen. The corrosion problem is very easily remedied by adding an additional Mercathode module to the system for about $40.

    Really, just weigh your options. If top speed is what you're going for, then the B1 should be your choice. If maneuverability and fuel economy is your priority, then look for a B3.
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    Very interesting and useful info. Top speed is not a huge deal. My local lake has a supposed limit of 40 mph, not that I've ever seen it enforced. I do like the idea of better maneuvering. I can recall some situations where my SC21 was difficult to operate in the Marina when the wind picks up.
    I do like to travel though an would like to visit other lakes. Having to buy props would get expensive on a BIII I imagine. I appreciate the info.
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