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MAJIC 07-27-2009 01:28 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
Sounds like all the obvious areas are covered. On my Shabah - it must be in neutral so move the shifter around some to make sure it is and the kill switch isn't enabled. The other kill switch - red button - MUST be out as that's an emergency cut-off switch off if contact is made.

I hope you get boating soon! These are great!

pimpadelic 07-27-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
it sounds like you just have a bad connection somewhere.

if when u turn the key it just clicks real fast then the battery has enough juice your just not getting it to the starter.

i had this problem on my shabah and all i had to do was wiggle the wires going from the batt. and wiggle the wires coming off of the starter and it would turn over. i would check all connections.

and i would get a better "boat guy"

kgoo 07-27-2009 04:32 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
Thanks for all of the suggestions! I'm guessing its a starter problem. Checked everything (boat in neutral, red button out and kill switch not engaged, checked connections as best we can). The sound seems like it's coming from under the dash, and it is just a sustained "beep". So, I'm putting in the call to a boat mechanic, because we also discovered that the trim only works to put the prop down and it won't come back up ... aargh!:shakehead:

SEMIJim 07-27-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
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Originally Posted by kgoo (Post 17160)
Thanks for all of the suggestions! I'm guessing its a starter problem. Checked everything (boat in neutral, red button out and kill switch not engaged, checked connections as best we can).

Starter problems are trivially easy to troubleshoot. They're trivially simple circuits :) This is just me, mind you, but I'd hesitate to pay a marine mechanic to address a starter problem.

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Originally Posted by kgoo (Post 17160)
The sound seems like it's coming from under the dash, and it is just a sustained "beep".

That's your high-temp/low-oil/low-outdrive-fluid alarm. With the key in "run" and the engine not running, that'll sound anywhere from immediately to some 20 seconds later, depending on the year of your boat.

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Originally Posted by kgoo (Post 17160)
So, I'm putting in the call to a boat mechanic, because we also discovered that the trim only works to put the prop down and it won't come back up ... aargh!:shakehead:

That's not so trivial. It's probably the trim limit sensor on the outdrive. If the trailering switch works but trim up doesn't, that's almost certainly what it is.

Jim

kgoo 07-27-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
Thanks Jim! Given that I wouldn't know a circuit from a tree trunk, I think the marine mechanic investment is probably a good one for me. That said, I did just figure out how to raise the prop manually (because our neighbour put it all the way down, then couldn't get it back up, so I can't tow the boat to the mechanic ...). I'll become a boat person yet!

95Z212 07-27-2009 08:53 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
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Originally Posted by 94z190talari (Post 17103)
Lanyards are usually attached to dead man's switches or "kill switches" on dangerous machinery, such as large industrial cutting/slicing machines, and also on vehicles, such as jet-skis or trains, so that if the operator suddenly becomes incapacitated, their fall will pull on the lanyard attached to their wrist, which will then pull the switch to immediately stop the machine or vehicle.

Ya, ok:rolling_laugh:

SEMIJim 07-27-2009 10:10 PM

Re: Boat won't start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Z212 (Post 17164)
Ya, ok:rolling_laugh:

Pull the lanyard off its switch some time while you're under way and see what happens :) The engine will immediately die and the boat will come to a stop relatively quickly. (As opposed to what would happen were you thrown from the boat with no lanyard switch to kill the engine.)

Jim

Cliff_Haskins 08-06-2009 02:26 AM

Re: Boat won't start
 
Please post the solution to your starting problems. At one time, a friend of mine and I put our heads together and came up with over 20 reasons why a boat wouldn't crank or crank but not fire. I think the mechanic was a good investment.

kgoo 08-06-2009 02:39 PM

Re: Solution to Boat won't start
 
Well, it's been a "fun" couple of weeks.

The starter was completely corroded -- this was a salt water boat -- so we got a new one; the batteries were shot, so we got new ones; paid for a major tune up and was told that, and I quote "the boat runs great".

Picked up the boat, loaded up the kids and the gear, pushed out from the ramp, and nothing. Boat won't start. Considered removing the plug and just sinking the damn thing.

Finally, after many tries, got the boat to start but it would not idle. Had to have it at half throttle just to keep the engine running. Sounded to me like a carburator problem that I had on my 1971 MGB. Wind picks up and slams boat into concrete pier ... blah blah blah.

Back to the boat mechanic. Owner isn't there, but wife says that they never even ran the stupid engine because there was no gas. Here's a thought, add some gas and add it to my bill (another $20 bucks on my $1600 bill really wouldn't have bothered me, especially when I told them to check everything because we don't know anything about boats, but I digress). The mechanic who actually worked on the boat told us that he thought maybe flushing the lines etc. caused some gunk to loosen and clog the carburator. We may not know boats, but we know engines, and both excuses did not impress us.

Anyway, it was the carburator (now replaced), and this time they took the boat out for a spin (at my insistence). Found another problem -- alternator was shot. Now that's been replaced so we should be good to go. Picking up the boat this afternoon. We'll see ... what else could possibly go wrong?!:wink_thumbup:

kylakerat 08-07-2009 02:49 AM

Re: Solution to Boat won't start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kgoo (Post 17506)
Considered removing the plug and just sinking the damn thing.

:rolling_laugh: I think all boat owners feel this way at some point in time! When you get everything ironed out and have that first beautiful day on the water, then you'll forget all your troubles.

When I get to thinking about the boat payments, boat registration and taxes, trailer tags and taxes, insurance, tons of gas, wear and tear on my truck from towing, gimble bearings replaced... twice, u-joints replaced, new water circulating pump, new water intake pump, cleaning the carb (and shooting myself straight in the eye with carburetor cleaner), winterizing, and all the things that are yet to go wrong, I really wonder why I own a boat. But when I'm cruising on glassy water, tunes going, and the wind blowing, I feel like a boat is simply the best thing in the world to spend money on.

Hope you get everything going so you can actually enjoy the lake!


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