does anyone know the fuel capacity of a 1995 216 Talari?
 

I recently almost ran out of gas and was wondering in anyone knew the fuel capacity of a 216 Talari?

The majority of the 210 Series boats had 43 gallon tanks in 1995.

How could I know for sure without running it till its completely empty
 

Any idea how I could find out for sure without running it until it is completely empty? I had always thought that it had a 44 gallon tank, but this weekend we went almost to empty. (like the needle wouldnt bounce or move off Empty unless I hit a very big wave) and I was only able to put in 39.5 gallons. Have you ever heard of a 40 gallon tank in a Talari? Is there a way to call the original Mariah people and give them a VIN/ hull id number?

You will not be able to get ahold of the original Mariah. There's simply nobody to call. What you could do is look on the tank itself for the size. On my Shabah, just in front of the bilge, there's a hatch that has two screws in it. Pop those screws out and lift the hatch and you have access to service all the plumbing going into the tank and the sender unit as well. There's a label on the tank near this area that says the exact volume. I'm not sure if this is also on the Talari but i'm sure there is some way to access the sender unit. Around that area you should find a label.

Hope that helps.

That helps a bunch!
 

thats a big help! Will do it this weekend. I havent noticed the hatch, but you are right, there has to be a way to access the sending unit.

thanks

Yes, the hatch is there specifically for that purpose. "Easy Access to Fuel Tank Internals" I read that in one of the brochures! Once again, just another reason the boats are "Equipped like No Other Boat in the World" :)

I don't remember seeing such a hatch on my '95 Shabah. I often wonder about the fuel capacity as well. I've had the gauge down near E and put close to 140L (~ 40 US gal) in, but my gut feeling was there was still a few gallons of gas in the tank.

Yeah, my sending unit went out just after I bought the boat. Mine is a Shabah as well, but I imagine yours is the same configuration - Lift the engine hatch, fold the rear bench forward, then there are 2 stainless bracket-looking things (they almost look like tongue depressors) with 2 screws each. After you pull those out, the door (about 1' by 3') lifts on a hinge towards the front of the boat. Everything is located right there, including the plate Ryan referenced with capacities. One thing I noticed, yet again, the tank was custom built - either by Mariah themselves or specifically for Mariah.

Yes Chris - I think I live and swear by that motto, these really are equipped, engineered, and built like no other boat!

Since we are on the topic about fuel tanks and capacities, I had a curiousity question about them.......

I have not lifted my fuel tank hatch cover yet (curiousity might get the better of me however). But what I was wondering was, does the fuel filler pipe go to the front portion OR on the rear section of the fuel tank?

Also, if the hatch only lifts so far to gain access to the sender unit, then it would mean the sender unit is towards the rear of the tank and would that not mean that when the boat is in water the "actual" reading on the fuel gauge would be higher then what is physically inside the tank ??

Reason is, my normal fill up for the weekend use consists of a 25L (6-7gal) gas can and siphon pump and from somewhere above 1/4 but below 1/2, the 25L will take my gauge reading to about almost full. So, based on the gauge reading, providing the fuel guage works properly, my tank should be a 50-60L tank... BUT... because of the way the boat sits in water, could my tank in fact be a 70L (16-18gal)?

I don't own a trailer so I can't change the way the boat is orientated (bow towards the ground) to see if in fact you "could" cram more fuel into the tank or not. Yes I know it's not good practice to cram as much fuel as you can into the tank, but more or less knowing if there might be more room in there than I think.

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Side note: http://www.flongo.ca/ ( Flo N' Go)

Makes filling up a lot easier and filling up from your dock a lot cleaner as well. A local supplier (Canadian Tire) sells them up here and I picked up the "Maxflo" last week. It delivers fuel around 2 gal or like 7L worth and holds prime till almost bottom. It is a whole helleva lot easier then being in the water and slugging the tank over your shoulder and hoping that you don't spill any onto the transom. From a 2 person job (one to lift and one to guide) it can be done by one person.

Downside, it doesn't get to the very bottom of a 25L tank. But it's simple enough to swap over to the old design nozzle and drain the last bit of fuel into your boat.

$35 canadian, worthwhile investment if you routinely fill up from the road vs marine like I do. Currently it is .92c/L on the road and about $1.22 on water.

My fuel filler goes to the rear of the tank. The sending unit is also to the rear. I believe you're correct, the way the boat sits in the water, the tank isn't exactly level. But I think the gauge/sending unit is calibrated to take that into account.

On another note, if 6-7 gallons makes your gauge go from 3/8 full to almost full, you may have an issue. I'm fairly certain your boat has more than 16-18 gallon capacity. Especially when you consider the shape of the tank - mine follows the shape of the hull (V shaped on the bottom), which would mean the capacity is less towards the bottom (relative to a perfect rectangle). I don't think the sending unit takes that into account, and my gauge slowly moves from full to 1/4, but after that it drops to empty quite fast.

You're lucky to be able to fuel with "carry on" tanks. My marina doesn't allow it (too much risk spilling fuel into the water), so they make you fill at the marina (yes, owned by the same people) for $3.59 a gallon!!! It sucks, but there's a reason boats are called "holes in the water".

Well I may have to just pop the hatch as MariahMan mentioned and see if I can find a capacity label on the tank. If I can, then I will know for certain what size tank is actually in the boat.

I would agree without looking first, that the tank would be a V-shaped design. My gauge still drops from the full position to 3/4 and lower, so it seems like its working. However, being only 6-7gal / 25L fill up doesn't seem like an awful lot of fuel.. lol.

Hehe, yeah I guess filling up at my uncles dock does have its privileges. The very first time I filled up the boat, yeah I made some boo-boos and spilt, but I had someone fetch some paper towels ASAP and got the fuel cleaned up before it sat too long on my transom and dripped more into the water. I keep towels right beside me when filling up to prevent any spills or drips off the FloN go.

Great tip, I never new that piece flipped up.

My 1995 202 Shebah has a 40 US gallon tank (151.4 liters)

No self-refueling here either. Prohibited by the municipality (which runs the marina). I don't have a dock at my cottage. Either I pony up 4.46 per US gallon (1.18/liter) at the marina pump, or haul it out, trailer it to the local gas station ~4 miles and fill 'er up for 3.80 a gallon (~1.00/liter). Fortunately my wharfage fee for the season includes unlimited launch ramp use.

My gauge seems to sit forever on Full then slowly drops to 1/2 and then seems to drop fairly quickly to 1/4 and Empty. It's definitely not linear.

Z202: I see you are in Kitchener, where abouts do you normally run your boat?

I have a Sunoco gas station which is about a 20-30min drive up some backroads from my cottage to Hwy11 (south of Gravenhurst). So thats where I have been buying my fuel for the summer so far. Which has maybe been in the 100L mark.. somewhere.

Its too bad that boat level sensors donn't have a buffer like cars do. Then we probably wouldnt see the needle bounce around like it does now.

btw - Im liking the new gas price's ... .92c/L :cool:

I've heard you can replace the fuel sender with an electronic version that connects to your existing gauge, supposed to eliminate the inaccurate readings, as well as virtually eliminate the needle bounce i'm sure we're all familiar with. I read about it on an offshore racing site, i believe it was about $300 or so to do it. Personally, I never let it get below 1/4 Tank.

At the local fuel docks, they have spray bottles with diluted Simple Green or dish soap to aid in overboard spills. a couple sprays on the water, and it'll break down all the gas. I hate letting some fuel get out, but when I fill the tank completely up, the vent always ends up spraying some. I keep a bottle of detergent soap onboard just for accidents like these. However, at the prices of gas this year, I've only been keeping the boat at about 1/2 to 3/4 tank. Paid $3.64/gallon the other night. ($2.79 on land)

180diablo: I'm on Geogian bay. Bruce Peninsula. Just north of Wiarton.

100L in total this season? Must be nice to have a fuel sipper. I went through 120L last weekend. :eek:

I doubt I'd ever switch the gauge. To me it's a reminder to top off. I usually think about filling up when I get between 1/2 and 1/4.

Like my dad always said: It costs the same to fill the top half as it does the bottom half.

Yeah from what I can rememember I have filled up the boat at least 4 times from the 25L. I have a second smaller 10L jerry that I have filled up two or three times, which I still have gas sitting in it from a few weeks ago. I brought that can along with me when I went out to Severn Falls with my aunt and uncle last Sunday. I had a "gauge full" tank but to be on the safe side, I brought the 10L as a spare. Fit nicely under the rear seat. It wasn't usuable, but .. it was hidden.

I can sometimes get about 2 weekends out of filling it up with just that 25L. Normally we only go out for a 2-3 hour drive. If we go up the Trent, then we are only puttin around at 1500rpms. So if we make it into Couchchiching, then we are probably lookin around a 4hour trip.

At least at the locks the boat gets a little rest.

Fuel capacity of a 1993 18 ft Diablo .... (yes curiousity got to me)... 23 gallons !! (87 L for us canucks).

Kracor fuel tanks was the brand, made in September 1992. It is the first time I have pulled that lid up, but the good news is that it was fairly clean under there (no rot). Lots of wood structure and man is that tank wedged in there!

Still have no idea how 87L could be cramed up in there w/o the bow being lower then the stern. I just go by what the level sensor on the dash says.. lol.