Want to get rid of the ads? Become a member by registering today.
The Mariah Owners Club

Forum Left Top

Welcome to the The Mariah Owners Club.


5.7 Litre and 4.3LX Alpha One, is that original?

Original Mariah Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-08-2008, 06:15 PM   #1

ale5jandro is currently offline
Posts: 7
Status: Stowaway
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Find me on the Map
My Model: 1995 180 Talari 4.3LX AlphaOne
Gallery Images: 0


Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Default 5.7 Litre and 4.3LX Alpha One, is that original?

Hi guys,
I'm about to buy a Mariah boat.
In the outdrive says 5.7 Litre but the engine is 4.3LX.

OutDrive
http://picasaweb.google.com/AlexBeac...71928905208162

Engine
http://picasaweb.google.com/AlexBeac...71809135726930

It's that ok? should those values match?
I'm worried about somebody changing the outdrive for the incorrect one.
Thanks

Alex
Reply With Quote
  • Old 07-08-2008, 06:29 PM   #2
     
    's Avatar

    Z 202 is currently offline
    Posts: 798
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: Kitchener ON
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 1995
    My Model: Mariah Shabah 202
    My Engine: 5.7L Alpha 1
    Gallery Images: 6


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
     
    Default

    Both motors are usually mated to an Alpha drive, so my guess is either

    A) The outdrive was replaced with a salvage one from a 5.7L rig

    or

    B) The boat was repowered with a 4.3L and the existing outdrive used.

    What size/model of Mariah is it?
    __________________
    My Mariah

    My Shabah is using what the hybrids are saving!
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 06:32 PM   #3

    ale5jandro is currently offline
    Posts: 7
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Jul 2008
    Location: Los Angeles
    Find me on the Map
    My Model: 1995 180 Talari 4.3LX AlphaOne
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
     
    Default

    Thank you very much for your answer
    It's a Talari 18ft 95/96 (I'm not sure)
    Do you think I could have issues with that ?
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 06:35 PM   #4
     
    's Avatar

    ShabahZ250 is online!
    Posts: 2,734
    Status: Admin & Mariah Fanatic
    Join Date: Jun 2007
    Location: Cincinnati, OH
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 2000
    My Model: Z250 Shabah LE
    My Engine: 7.4L MPI Bravo I
    Gallery Images: 1564


    Thanks: 4
    Thanked 118 Times in 105 Posts
     
    Default

    Hmm, that's an interesting one. The engine looks factory, usually you can tell if they've been swapped. The outdrive, while it may be from a 5.7L engine, as long as it was professionally installed, shouldn't be an issue. Over the past 5 years, there's been a problem in our area with outdrive theft. Someone came by and pulled about 12-15 outdrives off in one summer. Apparently they're worth about $4-6k each. Perhaps that's what happened with yours, and it was just replaced with a 5.7L model. Maybe a used one was installed?

    Or, it could have just been the previous owner slapping a 5.7L sticker on there to look more powerful?

    I don't think the 18' Talari would be powered with a 5.7L, that seems like a ton of engine for that boat!!

    Whatever the case, I'd definitely take it for a spin before buying it. Pay attention to any vibrations, noises, or anything out of the ordinary. I'd also try and find a Mercruiser mechanic to give it a good look before signing on the deal.

    Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
    __________________
    Chris
    2000 Mariah Shabah Z250 Limited Edition
    7.4L MPI, Bravo I
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 06:45 PM   #5

    ale5jandro is currently offline
    Posts: 7
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Jul 2008
    Location: Los Angeles
    Find me on the Map
    My Model: 1995 180 Talari 4.3LX AlphaOne
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
     
    Default

    Wow, incredible what you tell !
    I didn't know they steel outdrives. good to know.

    The boat is owned by a friend of a friend, so actually we went on the weekend to Lake Isabella.
    We were 6 on the boat and everything looked fine, we were also wake boarding 5 in the boat one in the board and was running great. But I'm not a mechanic. But I think if the installation could be the problem I think is well done. She (the owner) has the boat for about 4 years, she makes the service in the engine every year, and in the outdrive every two years.
    I just was wandering if the heavier mechanics of an outdrive 5.7L could affect an 4.3 engine.
    What do you think?
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 07:04 PM   #6
     
    's Avatar

    180diablo is currently offline
    Posts: 761
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 1993
    My Model: 1993 Diablo 180
    My Engine: 3.0L Mercruiser AlphaI
    Gallery Images: 30


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
     
    Default

    Wow you guys are fast! As I go to reply there are 2 more replies since... ROFL!

    Ok so its a 95/96. Take a look around the transom on the boat for the HIN number. The last 2 digits are the year of the boat.

    1992 and up drives are going to be all Gen2.

    http://www.sterndrive.info/sterndriv..._outdrive.html


    You could just remove the decal and place a 4.3 on it hehe
    __________________
    ~ Ryan
    Sparrow Lake - Trent Severn Waterway boater
    Owner of the 3.0L Powerhouse!
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 07:17 PM   #7

    bpfirrman is currently offline
    Posts: 171
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Apr 2008
    Find me on the Map
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
     
    Default

    My guess would be that the outdrive was changed. If my memory serves me correctly Mariah did not offer anything above the 4.3lXH in the 18 foot models. I would probably just remove the decal if that is possible.
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 07:18 PM   #8
     
    's Avatar

    180diablo is currently offline
    Posts: 761
    Status: Admiral
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 1993
    My Model: 1993 Diablo 180
    My Engine: 3.0L Mercruiser AlphaI
    Gallery Images: 30


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
     
    Default

    Quick flip of the 95 / 96 brochures...

    There was no 18 ft Talari in 1996 and the 1995 18ft Talari's came with 3.0 or 4.3 and no 5.7L option.

    As Shabah mentioned, 5.7L would be overkill for it.
    __________________
    ~ Ryan
    Sparrow Lake - Trent Severn Waterway boater
    Owner of the 3.0L Powerhouse!
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 07:56 PM   #9

    ale5jandro is currently offline
    Posts: 7
    Status: Stowaway
    Join Date: Jul 2008
    Location: Los Angeles
    Find me on the Map
    My Model: 1995 180 Talari 4.3LX AlphaOne
    Gallery Images: 0


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
     
    Default

    So the conclusion would be that the 4.3 engine is original and they changed the outdrive.
    And accordingly to Shabah if the work was well done, it must not be a problem.
    I was worried about having heavier mechanics in the outdrive could affect the engine performance.
    Thank you very much guys

    Alex
    Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2008, 09:49 PM   #10
     
    's Avatar

    indykoch is currently offline
    Posts: 614
    Status: Platinum Contributor
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: Fishers, IN
    Find me on the Map
    My Year: 1999
    My Model: Z212 Shabah
    My Engine: 350 Magnum Alpha One
    Gallery Images: 18


    Thanks: 0
    Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts
     
    Default

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 180diablo View Post
    As Shabah mentioned, 5.7L would be overkill for it.
    Overkill?!?!?!? No such thing!!!

    Alex, the lower unit is the exact same on a 5.7L as a 4.3L (if both are Alpha Ones). I agree, looks like someone had to replace the lower unit and decided on a used one from a 5.7L equipped boat. If all checks out, I wouldn't worry a bit.
    __________________
    Ryan
    '99 Z212 Shabah
    350 Mag MPI
    Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Bookmarks




    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools


    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Looking for an original Mariah Monogram Sewing Machine. WetWilly Requests 12 06-18-2009 09:00 PM
    Original Mariah Shield decal on eBay WetWilly Mariah Parts and Collectibles For Sale 92 08-27-2008 09:06 PM
    MARIAH original sticker / type plate mariah2350cz Requests 1 12-01-2007 01:56 PM
    New owner of an original Mariah nkramer91 Introductions 3 09-28-2007 08:23 PM



    Forum Right Top
    Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom
     
    Right Left
    Member Login
    Forgot password?
    Forum LeftForum Right


    About the Club
    Age of the Mariah Owners Club:

    Total Members: 6,943
    Total Threads: 6,285
    Total Posts: 35,057
    Find us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Subscribe to Mariah Owners Club on YouTube
    There are 47 users
    currently browsing forums.
    Forum LeftForum Right


    Find us on Facebook
    Forum LeftForum Right


    Club Sponsors
    BoatersWorld.com



    Right Sponsor
    Forum LeftForum Right
    Right Right
    Right Bottom Left Right Bottom Right