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vern 10-15-2015 11:42 PM

engine cuts out
 
I have a 350 mercruiser. At cruise, the boat will cut out and die. The tank has been emptied and refilled. Once while cruising and the boat begain to cut out, I began to do S turns and the boat sputtered but continued to run.
Could there be something in the tank that floats or is pulled to the gas inlet causing the boat to stall? How does the fuel pickup work? Is it attatched to the bottom of the tank? Could it have broken loose?
The tank is half full...

Hudson River Steve 10-16-2015 11:32 AM

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Could be something in the tank but more likely a cracked pickup tube or a split hose letting air into the fuel system.

vern 06-11-2016 04:02 AM

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With a full tank, my 350 Carb mercruiser runs great. When it gets to 1/2 tank it will cut out in cruise. It then will start right up.
I have emptied all the old gas and replaced with new. All hoses look good,,Tank pickup is clean.
Any ideas,,,a friend said to replace the fuel pump,

Hudson River Steve 06-11-2016 01:45 PM

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Did you check tank pickup tube for cracks?

vern 06-11-2016 06:38 PM

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When I drained the tank, i checked the hose for cracks..would the boat stop and start if there was a crack? could there be sludge in the bottom of the tank that collects at the pickup site, then dispereses when the boat stalls out?

Could it be a bad fuel pump?

Brian Belcher 06-16-2016 07:41 PM

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The full tank vs half tank cancels sludge/debris blocking it. It screams to me a bad pick up hose or a loose hose clamp.
Can you get to the pick up point of the tank ?
Do you have an in tank pump ? I'm looking at possible hose collapse due to suction and a weak walled hose

vern 06-17-2016 03:21 AM

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I have checked and cleaned pick up point.
all connections are tight,
What do you think about the anti siphon valve or weak fuel pump

Brian Belcher 06-17-2016 04:59 AM

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The anti siphon is only a pain in start up, especially after its sat a while.
I'm wondering about a very soft hose collapsing from suction. Weak pump would remain weak while turning, right ?
But, than again, why would turning cause a collapsed hose to, uncollapse?

Where is the fuel pump in your system ?

I edited cause I was very vague about the drain back valve.
The only purpose for this valve is to prevent fuel in the lines from draining back into the tank after the pump is turned off. That's why I said I doubt it's the valve. Your problem is after it starts.

Does your boat start cutting out immediately after starting ? Or does it need to be at full operating temps? In 40+ yrs of working on engines, I've never seen an actual vapor lock and I know that's not your problem.
Temperature could affect the gas tank by expansion. It's just one of the possible problems.
I really need to know if yours is pressured by an electric pump (in tank) or is it a manual pump on the engine (most likely).

vern 06-20-2016 04:18 AM

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Hello

The pump is located on the engine..it is an old mechanical pump.

i do not understand...running fine, then stops. Starts right up, and cruises normal..
this only happens with a fuel level 1/2 or below.

Brian Belcher 06-20-2016 05:24 AM

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Vern. You are obviously loosing the prime and it has to be in the line in the tank. Full tank to half and the bad spot is covered with gas. Once you use enough gas to expose the bad spot, not covered anymore, the prime is lost. You are going to have to pull the pick up unit completely out of the tank. Block off the lowest opening on unit, where the gas is actually drawn in at and put a small vacuum to it. You can use a brake bleeder pump, or a fish tank aerator pump.
The fact that gas level has everything to do with it is the smoking gun. I've looked everywhere for a pic of the pickup unit to no avail. Do you have one ?
What is your gas level right now ?

vern 06-21-2016 02:59 AM

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Hello
The pick up is a long plastic tube. It did not appear to have any cracks or holes...
could it be something on the bottom of the tank that gets sucked to the tube, then
when the motor stops, it floats away?

Brian Belcher 06-21-2016 11:20 PM

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Without a doubt, that's a possibility BUT, playing devils advocate, fuel level would not affect (effect?) that. Could fuel level just be a coincidence? Didn't you say that swerving would make it less severe ?
Dude, I wish u lived in central Arkansas. I'd come over and help you.

Do you have an engine oil, through the dip stick style pump ? I'd try to connect to the pick up unit with it still attached to the tank. Start pumping/ducking and see what comes out or better yet, if it stops sucking, which wouldn't suck.
Sorry

Paul F 06-25-2016 02:36 AM

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Mine was stalling at 3000 rpm. Turned out to be a loose wire on the fuel pump circuit that stalls the engine if the oil pressure drops.

vern 06-25-2016 03:16 AM

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i have a manual fuel pump..Do you?

Paul F 06-25-2016 04:07 AM

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1995 4.3 2bbl

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vern 06-28-2016 02:07 AM

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hello
where was this wire located?

Thanks

Paul F 06-28-2016 03:31 PM

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Don't know. My boat mechanic worked on it. I'm skittish about working on gasoline related items.

Brian Belcher 06-30-2016 01:12 AM

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I wonder if he's talking about the anti diesel valve?

Brian Belcher 08-06-2017 01:25 AM

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What ever became of this?


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