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Old 07-11-2009, 11:56 PM   #21
 
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I'm having the Mercruiser techs look everything over on Tuesday, and I'll report back.

Place your bets:

A. Fuel pump
B. Coil
C. Something else
You left out "All of the above"

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1. Less than $100
Don't be ridiculous--it's a boat we're talking about here.

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2. $101 to $499
This would be my guess, but it's a boat we're talking about here, so...

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3. $500 to $800
Distinctly possible.

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4. Pull the plug and turn it into a fresh water reef.
Too expensive. You'd have to strip her of all pollutants (engine, gas tank, outdrive, anything else), first. Probably the upholstery, any wood (it's no doubt all treated), probably all the wire and electronics, as well.

Btw: Before invoking the expensive option, I'd consider obtaining a replacement coil and trying that, first.

Or... Do these engines have electronic ignitions, or are they the old points-and-condenser systems? It's been a long time, but... this is kind of sounding like a condenser problem, maybe?

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    Default Re: Row Row Row My Boat (4.3L Mercruiser, Bad Alternator?)

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    I'm having the Mercruiser techs look everything over on Tuesday, and I'll report back.

    Place your bets:

    A. Fuel pump
    B. Coil
    C. Something else

    and

    1. Less than $100
    2. $101 to $499
    3. $500 to $800
    4. Pull the plug and turn it into a fresh water reef.

    I'm going with C and either 2 or 3 since you are taking it in. My actual guess as to the cause of the gripe is a combination of fuel/water separator filter and carb inlet filter.
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    Default Re: Row Row Row My Boat (4.3L Mercruiser, Bad Alternator?)

    So why doesn't my boat stay running past 3000 RPMs? Why does it run OK at idle and at no-wake speeds, but die shortly after getting up on plane?

    After a careful inspection, the Mercruiser techs are saying...


    (wait for it)


    Badly corroded carburetor.

    As in, "it's really pretty bad. It shouldn't be rebuilt, but replaced." As in, "there's been a lot of water in the gas over the years." As in, "the previous owner may have messed it up, or used a lot of gas with ethanol because this was years in the making."

    So there you have it. Another $900 bucks. At least the shiny new (well, remanned) carb will match the shiny new alternator.
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    Badly corroded carburetor.

    As in, "it's really pretty bad. It shouldn't be rebuilt, but replaced." As in, "there's been a lot of water in the gas over the years." As in, "the previous owner may have messed it up, or used a lot of gas with ethanol because this was years in the making."
    That's why I started using Sta-Bil marine formula right off. Ethanol and (older) boats are Not A Good Mix.

    If you haven't seen it: Tell EPA to Wait on Ethanol Increase. Summary: EPA, at the urging of ethanol producers, want's to increase ethanol in gasoline from the current 10% (E10) to 15% (E15), without first researching the possible side-effects. E10 was a disaster for the marine industry. You would have thought they'd take that into consideration. But I guess not when Big Money (ethanol producers, in this case) is speaking. So much for "Change You Can Belive In," eh?

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    So there you have it. Another $900 bucks.
    *Ouch*! That really is a case of Bring Out Another Thousand!

    Well, at least the problem's identified and relatively easily fixed.

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    At least you have gotten to the source of the problem, and a valuable lesson learned for all others out there.
    Now you can get out there and enjoy your summer
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    Hmmmmm....Summit Racing has a package. 600 CFM Edelbrock 1409, K&N flame arrestor, and new studs for $420. You need the 1485 kit with metering rods and jet kit for the 4.3L. It's $17. You might need an adapter too depending on your manifold.

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    Default Re: Row Row Row My Boat (4.3L Mercruiser, Bad Alternator?)

    I have to agree: $900 for a stock (I assume) 4-bbl. Rochester or Webber carburetor does seem kind of steep, even installed. Replacing a carburetor is trivial, labour-wise. Back in the day I thought nothing of regularly tearing 'em off, rebuilding 'em and putting 'em back on.

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    Apparently, in this case, it's about a $600 part (I verified this at several parts places online), and a total of about three hours of work -- 1 hour for initial testing and diagnostics, 2 hours for replacement.

    Not saying I agree with this, but I guess I understand it.
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    Default Re: Row Row Row My Boat (4.3L Mercruiser, Bad Alternator?)

    You gotta pay to play...

    Sorry to hear the not-so-good news. Hopefully, it'll be all fixed soon.

    I would wager as you as soon as you drop the hammer for the first time out, the thoughts about the incurred costs and headaches will all disappear.

    People always give me that old "Two best days in a boat owners life... " line. I tell them it's nonsense. I can never get that ear to ear grin off my mug every time I punch it to get up on plane...
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    Default Re: Row Row Row My Boat (4.3L Mercruiser, Bad Alternator?)

    Given the cost, I ask myself this question:

    "It's $900. Your boat could be mechanically flawless. Would you rather have two hookers and a bottle of scotch?"

    No. Probably not.
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