Outdrive tried to jump ship
 

So a last minute decision to run to the lake instead of prepping race cars may have been a costly one this weekend. we hit the ramp dump "OFF DUTY" into the wet and off we go WOT a crossed the main body it had a little funny vibration but i thought ok wind, water chop, load or just trimmed a lil high.
so we chopped the throttle kicked out a rope and was going to do a little wake skating/surfing but as soon as I started pulling my 120# boy up the boat shook and shuttered bad I knew something wasn't right so i pulled the trim tabs back up and tried again it was a little better but still not right. so we cruised back to the shop and prepped cars anyways LOL
Got up Sunday and started to tear her down ready to find a bad u joint but as i pulled the trim rams off the outdrive about fell off in my lap. as there was no pivot screw on the gimbal ring it some how jumped ship and the only thing holding on the outdrive was the trim rams and the trim sending unit (which hasn't work since I've had it) I was shocked and confused as to how that happened and glad it was to bad. well i hope.
So far the damage is a bearing on the drive shaft that sets in the transom shield (gimbal bearing)
and the missing gimbal pivot screw. but now heres the questions.
does the bearing press onto the driveshaft like as is now or press into the transom housing?

Does anybody have a manual to the Volvo Penta DP-SM 1.78 outdrive heck as long as im asking a manual for the motor too 8.2 GSi

Thanks Ryan

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yep :wink_thumbup:

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Ouch. Sorry to hear about your weekend. As for the manual(s), did you have a look at the bottom of our Maintenance & Repair section? There is a link there for contributing members to all of our Volvo manuals.

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The gimble bearing press fits into the gimble mount. If its froze to the driveshaft that aint good.
Check and make sure the mount where the gimble bearing fits is not worn away from the "vibration" you had.
It should fit snug in the mount.

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You don't have it mikey :D
I think you've got the motor manual, and that has a bit on drives.
But I don't think you have the full Volvo drives manual.
I could be wrong, it won't be the first time.....lol

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I really didn't know for sure. I never look at the Volvo stuff given that i dont own one nor do i drive one of those boxy shaped GM designed behemoths. ;)

I'll have to look around & see if i can find a drives manual for the club.

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We do now! :wink_thumbup:

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Oh I see it now thank you:D

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Thanks Colorado, I'm on shift at the station today but order the bearing and will go by the marina in the morning and get fingers cross it fits tight. not looking forward to buying a transom shield or telling momma i have to buy one :eek_animated: good sign is it didn't look like it spun in there.
Thanks again for the info

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Ok got everything replace and was going smooth till I went to stab the drive back in.
It goes all but the last inch and it just dead stop. Pulled it all apart thinking they gave me the wrong bearing but after pulling it it slides on just like the old one. The splines slide in easy also, but once I install the bearing it locks up again. So we started thinking motor needed realigned. We have tried everything nothing helped I'm at a lose. The manual read it should slide in and out easy. Any ideas.
If not I guess it goes to the shop Monday.


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Sounds like the shift arm might not be in the right place.
Not real sure on the VP drives , but gotta be in forward gear on the Merc drives.
I'll do some searching , and in the meantime , maybe one of the VP boys will chime in with a answer. :)

Update: Looks like you need the shifter in neutral.

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Check out this post from marine engine.com.

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Thank you for the reply I was thinking the same thing last night so we pulled the drive shaft off the drive uint so we could slide it in and out easy. its stoping just before the o-rings

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You did realign the gimble to the motor right? ( Don't mean to seem anal)
It almost sounds like a alignment issue. If it isn't just right it won't go in.
Is it possibly hanging on the inside of the driveshaft boot?

I'll continue to look for a solution.:wink_thumbup:

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yes aligning gimbal to motor ill go by the shop and get a pic tonight. im on shift tomorrow so ill have a ton of time to research too.

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I found the process in the "Volvo Outdrives Workshop Manual" here on MOC.
Go to page 132 and see if that looks familiar.
VP drives are a whole new ball of wax for me , sorry. :(

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I've been reading the manual thanks for having those on here for us.
Here's the parts I'm fighting.
The drive shaft only slides in as far as the shine spot on the shaft.


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Did you try fitting the gimble bearing to the shaft before you installed the bearing?
Is there possibly an old O-ring in the groove inside the housing?
Does your alignment tool seat all the way in?
Maybe mike the driveshaft bearing area with calipers to make sure it's round?
Burrs maybe?
Bent shaft?

Stuff you probably already thought of ..........but maybe!

How far are you from Denver? Road trip to see this cluster!!
Gotta be something simple!!

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Crazy how most of us on here think the same. I did do all that and it fits great till you put them all together. Ok here's where you guys get to poke me. I didn't buy the tool I'm using the drive shaft itself to align it. The tool was nothing more then a drive shaft with no yoke. So I didn't see the $140 need for it. But I'm going to pay somebody Monday that I know to fix it. Lol


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Should have worked. I'm wondering if the shaft isn't bent.
Did it eat a U-joint or two?
Weird ass stuff for sure!!
Sorry I couldn't help more.:confused:
Make damn sure you let us know what you find.:wink_thumbup:

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U joints weren't bad but I had it out so I changed them PV you how that is.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU so much for your help even if we didn't find the fix it makes all of us think out side the box. You rock this site by the way!


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Why..........thanks Rynovw.
We all do our best to help our fellow Mariah owners.
The cost of toys go up and up , and if I or any of the other members can help a fellow boater to get back in the water.....it's all worth the effort!
Make sure you update us!

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OK so you've tried or the normal stuff and that's not worked!
so thinking way outside of the box, have you run a small telescopic magnet down the hole to make sure you haven't picked up something on the greased shaft when installing.
It wouldn't take much to jam it as its a machine fit...

Clutching at straws now though.

Outdrive tried to jump ship
 

Ok so the tool is a must!!! As soon as I got to the marina to drop her off Travis walked out with his tool and moved the gimbal bearing to align it. Bad part if my impatient butt wouldnt have tried to move the motor I would be back together already but he had to put the motor back where it was so he'll have it a day or so. They are 3 weeks behind right now but he was going to slide it in for me. Then he's coming to my shop after that to help with the stabbing the drive and tune up. On a side note he's got the program to get the 525hp out of my set up so we'll see where that leads

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Sure am glad you and the mechanic got it solved!
He sounds like a great guy , helping out when they are slammed , and coming over to your place.:wink_thumbup:
Let us in on the sea trial K?
Happy Boating :)