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steve 12-26-2007 05:10 PM

Proper Prop Specs?
 
I Have A 1996 Mariah Shabah 18' Open Bow With A 4.3lx Mercruise Alpha One I/o.
Current Prop Is A 14.5 X 17 Pitch. Which Yields 56-58 Hundred Rpm At Top End.
Any Suggestions On Proper Pitch Prop For The Above.
Ty All Vm
Steve

mikeyt 12-27-2007 02:17 AM

5800 rpm for the 4.3V6 is way too high. It should run between 4400 - 4800 rpm. I'd almost suspect the cylinder setting on the back of your tach is wrong though so you might want to check that first. I use a 14.25 x 21 - 3 blade aluminum on mine but am thinking of dropping to a 19 pitch prop or a 20 pitch - 4 blade for a little more bite. I think 180diablo (Ryan) uses a 19 pitch prop on his 18'.

180diablo 12-27-2007 01:34 PM

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However I dont have a 4.3L in my boat. I think my 3.0 runs around where MikeyT mentioned, 4400-4800rpm range approx. I Agree with what MikeyT said. Check the gauge, or have someone inspect it for proper operation and then I would probably change out the prop.

There might even be a proper size selector chart on Mercruisers webpage??

jmills224 12-28-2007 07:39 PM

I have a '97 Talari 179se with the same engine and outdrive. I'm running a 17 pitch(14 3/4" I believe) ss Ballistic prop. I can reach a max RPM of 4900 by myself and half a tank of fuel with a top speed of 49mph.

When I'm loaded with fuel, cooler, wife, myself, and all other gear I usually max out at around 46mph@4700RPM.

I agree with all the others that you have a problem with your tachometer. Also, please post your top speed with your current propeller.

~J

97 Z222 12-29-2007 09:23 PM

I think that merc optimum rpm is 4600-4800 rpm at any size motor. I asked my mechanic about my prop and he gave me the 4600-4800 rpm info. I'm running a 21p on my 7.4L. seems to be the merc sweet spot.

180diablo 12-30-2007 02:54 AM

I know i have seen a few posts in my travels saying, never use the gauge on the dash as a 100% figure in your speed. Verify it with a GPS unit for more precise units.

As for me, from what I remember back in September I was running around 4000-4200rpm range. That seemed to be the noise / rpm / plane sweet spot. I have had it run around 35-36mph (dash) at 4800rpm range, but the engine noise is loud. I dont want to see a piston rocket to the moon ... heh.

After all, I purely have the boat for cruising and anchoring. :wink_thumbup:

mikeyt 12-30-2007 05:37 PM

That 4800 rpm figure is the maximum rpm figure. Running at anything more than that causes premature & excessive wear on the engine so if you are propped correctly that shouldn't be an issue. The engine rpm 'sweet spot' is a completely different animal. That point is where the engine is running comfortably with a reasonable noise level & fuel consumption. If i remember correctly (it's been 3 mos now..) mine was around 32-35mph & about 3700rpm.

All that said....yep, never completely trust your speedo or your tach until you check them out against calibrated measuring devices.

93mariah 12-30-2007 09:20 PM

Our '93 18'10" Barchetta Z has the same Mercruiser 4.3LX Alpha One. Our prop is 17 x 21 pitch, with top rpm being 4800.

93mariah 12-30-2007 09:31 PM

Sorry. Ours is a 14.5 x 21, not a 17x21. My husband says you would have better performance with a 21 pitch. We've used this size prop since the boat was new.

180diablo 12-31-2007 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyt (Post 2985)
That 4800 rpm figure is the maximum rpm figure. Running at anything more than that causes premature & excessive wear on the engine so if you are propped correctly that shouldn't be an issue. The engine rpm 'sweet spot' is a completely different animal. That point is where the engine is running comfortably with a reasonable noise level & fuel consumption. If i remember correctly (it's been 3 mos now..) mine was around 32-35mph & about 3700rpm.

All that said....yep, never completely trust your speedo or your tach until you check them out against calibrated measuring devices.

So even with your boat being a 4.3L and mine being a 3.0L, the 4000rpm range still stands out being the average.

I should have added in my previous post, that when I push it to 4800rpm, I only leave it there for about 5-10 seconds max and then drop it down again. Mostly I was doing it to just see what happens. Once I know, I dont need to use it there again.

I would love to get mine calibrated / checked out for accuracy :)

mikeyt 12-31-2007 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 93mariah (Post 2989)
Sorry. Ours is a 14.5 x 21, not a 17x21. My husband says you would have better performance with a 21 pitch. We've used this size prop since the boat was new.

If you are hitting 4800 rpm with a 21" pitched prop then i'd say you are just about perfect. You could gain maybe 1 - 2mph with a slight sacrifice in low end acceleration by increasing to a 23" pitch and that would drop your rpm max to about 4600 but....i dont think it's worth it. Just my 2 pennies worth. :)

Lars 07-03-2008 11:16 PM

Try this link, It's Mercurys prop selector:

https://appcenter.mercurymarine.com/...lector/home.do

Jimh23 04-28-2009 03:17 PM

Re: Proper Prop Specs?
 
I have a 3.0L on a 180 Diablo that came with a 14.5 x 17 prop. The WOT speed was about 38 MPH at 5000 RPM. From some research the approach for the proper pitch was one inch of pitch = 200 rpm. So I went with a 14.5 x 19 prop for some performance and proper rpm. Well the speed increased to 42 mph but the rpm remained the same at 5000 rpm. Should I consider this rpm situation a gage problem?

Z 202 04-28-2009 04:32 PM

Re: Proper Prop Specs?
 
The max rpm for the 3.0L motor should be in the neighbourhood of 4800 rpm. Either your tach is off, or you are still underpropped and you're hitting the rev limiter.

mikeyt 04-28-2009 08:17 PM

Re: Proper Prop Specs?
 
You can check your tach to see if it is set at '4 cyl'. On the backside there is a small dial marked 4 - 6 - 8 etc. Just spin the dial a few times & set it at '4'. Sometimes this will correct a tach problem. If you are still hitting 5000rpm at WOT then yes, try a 21" pitch.

Irace82 04-29-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Proper Prop Specs?
 
Can anyone do a "how to" post with pictures on how to change a prop? I have done some reading up on the subject but unsure of what some of them are talking about without actually putting a picture to it. And also a list of tools and lube and such needed.

Well hopefully someone will be needing to change their prop soon haha if you do help would be appriciated. Thanks.

WetWilly 04-29-2009 07:50 AM

Re: Proper Prop Specs?
 
Hi Irace82,

Changing the prop on the Alpha is really easy and I'm sure after looking at the "How to" and doing it yourself, you'll be a pro in no time!
(I've even done it while in the middle of a lake after our old SeaRay's prop hit a piece of drift wood or something and lost most of one blade)

You'll find the instructions for changing the prop In the Alpha's REMOVAL, INSTALLATION AND ADJUSTMENT Manual (Section 2A), it starts at the bottom of page 2A-23.

Here's something I found on the web with a few pictures too, click here.

Good luck,
WetWilly


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