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Been looking at several different Mariaha boats and was wondering the weight of a 272 barchetta, the 1 I am looking at is a 1995. Another 1 is a 1996 I am trying to guess the weight on these boats for 2 reasons. 1 of the boats doesn't have a trailer and I called a place today and they say it has to have a triple axle trailer. The other has a trailer but its a tandem axle trailer and the boat looks oversize on it like the boat is wider than the trailer. Its a Eagle trailer. The other reason I want to see if my 2010 f150 supercrew 4x4 with max tow will pull it. It has the 3:73 gears and will pull over 11,000 pds. Thanks Vman
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'96 brochure says dry weight is 6100 lbs.
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I'm a Ford Lover from hell , but there ain't no way a F150 is going to pull 11,000 lbs other than on the flats! , if your lucky!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Do everyone on the road a favor and get a F250 at least , if your going to pull that kind of weight. I can't even imagine trying to stop that kind of weight behind a 1/2 ton truck in a "emergency" situation. Best you got is a............... "OOhh **** scenario (bad wording- sorry) when it comes time to stop in a hurry. Just common sense , in my opinion. As usual...............just my opinion. |
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Pulled a Shabah 250 about 450mi Powell with a 2010 Sierra 1500. It has the 5.3 and a 6 speed. It pulled a night an day difference over my 1999 5.4L F150 BUT it still had a hard time. I mean I could actually do the speed limit but we got like 9-11mi a gallon depending on the terrain. The Shabah is around 4400 not to mention the ice chests, gear and etc. If I were to try an pull over twice that I would probably not be going far. The surge brakes went out on the way to Powell. It sucked trying to come down the mountain passes and even basic stops for lights. Had to use the manual tranny shift a lot. It was not fun.
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Colorado The specs on my truck says it will pull 11000 pds. I have pulled 7000 pds with no problem at all. Heavy tow package with those gears is nothing. It has the 6 speed tranny. I pull my champion have the boat I feel, loaded with fuel and equpment and I don't even feel it back there. Its a 20.1 ft. Loaded I would say around 5000lbs. When I had my 04 same truck and gears but 5 speed tranny I could pull my Mariah loaded with fuel 75 mph and no problems. At all. So I would say pulling a 27 ft boat is not outta the question
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Moto I hear ya, and I mean no disrespect so don't take it that way please. But a chevy with the basic gear package as well as the fords what I call car gears they are lucky to get out of their own wy. Sure they might be able to pul a small trailer or what not but nothing much bigger unless you have the gears and torque. 3:73 gears and 4:10 are pulling gears. Its a disgrace in my oppinion what they put in todays trucks. I was going to buy another truck and I would have to go up to a F250 to get what I have in this 1.
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Bring it up here in the mountains and see what happens.:rolleyes:
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As for Colorado's remark- the elevation sucks the life out of these gas motors. Wolf Creek pass was amazing at a blistering 25 mph!! Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 4 |
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Please excuse my ignorance. I read it wrong. The correct pulling capcity is 7300 pds. I am sorry for my blatant stupidity.
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I get the comment " the tail wagging the dog" with my setup. Usually at a gas station by a guy pulling a huge toy hauler or the International 4 door pulling a huge Fountain on a 3 axle... The set up every working class guy can afford! (Sarcasm) http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/zujana6a.jpg Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 4 |
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And my truck. My girlfriend has the Sierra we towed to Powell with.
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Very nice set up.
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According to nada the Barchette weighs in at 5650pds dry weight. So with the trailer I think I can handle it.
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Great topic! I'd put my Eco-boost up against any 1/2 ton, amazing performance for what it is. I pull a talari 220 like its not there.
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X2,,,, plus the weight of all the little accessories, full tank of gas etc...means you are very likely at (or over) your max.... and for me, stopping is a bigger issue than pulling. |
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I was correct in the pulling weight on my truck it is 11200 pds. Here is the spec sheet on my truck, I have the 4x4 5ft bed........ 2010 Ford F150 Specs
See also: 2010 Ford Trucks POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS* indicates E85 performance POWERTRAIN 4.6L 2V V-8 4.6L 3V EFI V-8 5.4L 3V Triton V-8 Engine type V-8 iron block, aluminum heads V-8 iron block, aluminum heads V-8 iron block, aluminum heads Bore x Stroke 3.55 x 3.54 in. 3.55 x 3.55 in. 3.55 x 4.16 in Displacement 281 cu in, 4,606 cc 281 cu in, 4,606 cc 330 cu in, 5,400 cc Compression ratio 9.4:1 9.8:1 9.8:1 Fuel Injection Sequential multiport electronic Sequential multiport electronic Sequential multiport electronic Valvetrain SOHC, 2 valves per cylinder SOHC, 3 valves per cylinder SOHC, 3 valves per cylinder, Variable Camshaft Timing Power 248 hp @4,750 rpm 292 hp @ 5,700 rpm 320 hp @ 5,200 rpm* /310 hp@ 5,000 rpm Torque 294 ft.-lb. @ 4,000 rpm 320 ft.-lb. @4,000 rpm 390 ft.-lb. @ 3,500 rpm* /365 lb.-ft @3,500 rpm Oil capacity 6 qt 6 qt 7 qt Coolant capacity 19.7 qt 20.0 qt 20.7 qt Transmission type 4-speed automatic O/D (4R75E) 6-speed automatic overdrive (6R80E) 6-speed automatic overdrive (6R80E) Gear ratios 4-speed automatic O/D 6-speed automatic O/D 6-speed automatic O/D 1st 2.48:1 4.17:1 4.17:1 2nd 1.56:1 2.34:1 2.34:1 3rd 1.00:1 1.52:1 1.52:1 4th 0.70: 1.14:1 1.14:1 5th - 0.86:1 0.86:1 6th - 0.69:1 0.69:1 Reverse 2.32:1 3.40:1 3.40:1 Available axle ratios 3.15:1 / 3.31:1 / 3.55:1 / 3.73:1 SUSPENSION Front 4x2 Coil-on-shock, long-spindle double wishbone independent, stamped steel lower control arm 4x4 Coil-on-shock, long-spindle double wishbone independent, stamped steel lower control arm Rear 4x2 Hotchkiss-type non-independent live, leaf springs and outboard shock absorbers 4x4 Hotchkiss-type non-independent live, leaf springs and outboard shock absorbers STEERING Type power rack-and-pinion Overall ratio 20.0:1 (126-in, 133-in (Raptor only), 145-in wheelbase and 157-in wheelbase with Max. Trailer Tow) 17.0:1 (157-in wheelbase without trailer tow, 163-in wheelbase) Turning circle, curb-to-curb see Dimensions and Capacities BRAKES Front 13.8X1.24 in, twin 2.13 in pistons, Non Asbestos Organic (NAO) linings Rear 13.7x0.79 in, single 2.00 in piston, Non Asbestos Organic (NAO) linings Assist type Vacuum, RSC WHEELS AND TIRES Base wheel and tires 17-in steel, P235/70R17 (4x2) and P235/75R17 (4x4) Largest wheel available and tires 20-in aluminum, P275/55R20 AS (4x2) and P275/55R20 AT (4x4); Harley-Davidson™ 22-in aluminum, P275/45R22 All Season BSW (4) "V" rated FUEL ECONOMY (city/hwy) 4x2 4.6L 2V V-8 4-spd auto N/A 4x2 4.6L 3V V-8 6-spd auto N/A 4x2 5.4L V-8 6-spd auto (gas) N/A 5.4L V-8 6-spd auto (E85) N/A 4x4 4.6L 2V V8 4-spd auto N/A 4x4 4.6L 3V V8 6-spd auto N/A 4x4 5.4L V8 6-spd auto (gas) N/A 4x4 5.4L V8 6-spd auto (E85) N/A DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES Regular Cab SuperCab SuperCrew 6.5ft 8 ft. 6.5ft 8ft 5.5ft 6.5 ft. 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 EXTERIOR Wheelbase 125.8 125.8 144.5 144.5 144.5 144.5 163.2 163.2 144.4 144.4 156.6 156.6 Overall length 213.1 213.1 231.7 231.7 231.7 231.7 250.3 250.3 231.7 231.7 243.7 243.7 Overall height 74.6 74.6 76.2 76.2 71.5 75.9 75.9 76.7 74.3 76.2 74.3 76.4 Overall width (excluding mirrors) 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 78.9 Track width, front 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 Track width, rear 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 Cargo box length 78.8 78.8 97.4 97.4 78.8 78.8 97.4 97.4 67.0 67.0 78.8 78.8 Width (max) between wheels 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 Inside box height 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 22.4 INTERIOR All dimensions are in inches unless otherwise noted. Seating Capacity 3 3 3 3 5/6 5/6 5/6 5/6 5/6 5/6 5/6 5/6 Head room Front 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 Rear -- -- 39.7 39.7 39.7 39.7 40.3 40.3 40.3 40.3 Leg room Front 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 41.4 Rear -- -- -- -- 33.4 33.4 33.4 33.4 43.5 43.5 43.5 43.5 Hip room Front 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 60.5 Rear -- -- -- -- 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 64.6 64.6 64.6 64.6 Shoulder room Front 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 65.9 65.9 65.9 65.9 Rear -- -- -- -- 66.8 66.8 66.8 66.8 65.6 65.6 65.6 65.6 Fuel capacity (gal) 26.0 gal - 26.0 gal - 26.0 gal 36 opt 26.0 gal 36 opt 26.0 gal 36 opt 36.0 gal -- 26.0 gal 36 opt 36.0 gal -- 26.0 gal 36 opt 36.0 gal -- 26.0 gal 36 opt 36.0 gal -- Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft) 41.7 41.7 47.0 47.0 47.0 47.0 52.3 52.3 47.0 47.0 50.4 50.4 WEIGHT AND TOWING (Pounds) Regular Cab SuperCab SuperCrew 126 inch WB 145 inch WB 145 inch WB 163 inch WB 145 inch WB 157 inch WB 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 WEIGHT (lbs.) Base curb weight 4.6L 2V 4,693 4,951 4,803 5,047 5,048 5,365 - - 5,137 - 5,270 - 4.6L 3V - 4,981 4,813 5,042 5,068 5,395 - - 5,167 5,522 5,300 5,661 5.4L - 5,083 4,935 5,171 5,191 5,474 - - 5,295 5,624 5,372 5,744 5.4L HD pkg - - 5,103 5,404 - - 5,485 1 5,789 1 - - - - Payload capacity 4.6L 2V 1,710 1,640 1,890 1,850 1,600 1,480 - - 1,610 - 1,470 - 4.6L 3V - 1,710 1,980 1,950 1,680 1,550 - - 1,680 1,420 1,540 1,430 5.4L - 1,660 2,060 1,970 1,800 1,670 - - 1,750 1,510 1,670 1,540 5.4L HD pkg - - 3,030 2,740 - - 2,660 2,350 - - - - GVWR 4.6L 2V 6,450 6,650 6,750 6,950 6,700 6,900 - - 6,800 - 6,800 - 4.6L 3V - 6,750 6,850 7,050 6,800 7,000 - - 6,900 7,000 6,900 7,150 5.4L - 6,800 7,050 7,200 7,050 7,200 - - 7,100 7,200 7,100 7,350 5.4L HD pkg - - 8,200 8,200 - - 8,200 1 8,200 1 - - - - CONVENTIONAL TOWING – Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight Ratings (lbs.) Regular Cab 4x2 Regular Cab 4x4 SuperCab 4x2 SuperCab 4x4 SuperCrew 4x2 SuperCrew 4x4/AWD ENGINE AXLE RATIO MAX. GCWR (LBS.) 126.0" WB 145” WB" 126.0" WB 145" WB 145" WB 163” WB 145" WB 163.0" WB 145" WB 157" WB 145" WB 157" WB 4.6L EFI 2V V-8 automatic 3.55 10,400 10,600 5,400 - - 5,500 - --- - -- - 5,300 - -- - -- - -- - 5,200 - 5,100 - -- - -- 3.73 10,900 11,100 5,900 - - 6,000 - - 5,800 - 5,800 -- - 5,500 -- - 5,700 - 5,600 -- -- 4.6L 3V V-8 automatic 3.31 13,100 13,500 -- - 8,000 - -- - -- - - 8,100 - -- - -- - -- - 8,100 - 8,000 - -- - -- 3.55 12,900 13,100 13,500 13,600 14,900 -- - - - 8,400 7,700 - 7,700 - - - - 9,500 -- - - 7,900 -- - - - 9,400 - - - 9,300 - - 7,700 - - 7,600 3.73 13,300 13,600 15,100 -- -- 8,000 - 8,200 -- -- - - 9,400 -- -- -- - - 9,300 - - 9,200 5.4L 3-Valve Triton V-8 automatic 3.15 13,200 14,000 -- 8,000 - -- -- - 8,600 -- -- -- - 8,500 - 8,400 -- -- 3.31 13,000 13,200 14,000 -- 8,000 - - 7,700 - - -- -- -- - - 8,300 -- -- -- - - 8,100 - - 8,000 3.55 13,900 15,000 15,200 15,300 15,400 15,500 -- - 9,800 8,600 - 9,500 - - 9800 -- - - - - 9,700 -- - - - 9,800 - - - 9,700 - - - - - 9,700 - - - - - 9,600 5.4L 3-Valve Triton V-8 Automatic w/HD 3.73 13,900 15,000 15,400 15,500 16,700 16,900 17,000 17,100 - - 11,300 - - - 8,600 - - - - - - - 9,500 11,300 - 11,300 - - 11,300 - - 9,700 - - - - 11,200 - - - - - - - 11,100 11,300 - - - - - - 11,300 - - 9,600 - - - 11,200 - - 9,500 - - - 11,100 Note: Maximum loaded trailer weights shown. The combined weight of the towing vehicle (including hitch, passenger, cargo) and the loaded trailer must not exceed the Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR). Note: See RV and Trailer Towing Guide for requirements, restrictions and 5th-wheel towing I just can't excede total weight of both truck and trailler of 17100 pds. |
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Wow that could be the longest post ever. I've seen all types of odd towing combinations at the marina. I have a 2001 f150 and you can definitely feel the z240 behind it. My next truck will be a power stroke no matter what mg wife says! :)
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I was out looking at F350's the last few days and have a couple of friends who have somewhat older 1's with the 7.3 powerstroke I know they will pull over 20k pds and the newer 2008 and above have the 6.4 and the 6.7 powerstrokes in them, but all this is really over kill for a 27ft boat really when you get down to it. My truck pulls my enclosed trailer loaded with Harley's and a chopper with no problem, as well as pulling my champion with ease. Considering the towing capacity of the truck and it has the trailer brake adj inside the truck, plus the trailer having brakes, I see no problem in keeping what I have to do the job. My 04 same truck and equipment pulled my talari from Oklahoma city to the lake of the ozarks with out a problem at all. Besides the truck just sits their and I never drive it except to pull the toys. So all things considered I think I will stay with what I have. I mean combined weight of the boat and trailer approx 7200 pds I am still 4k pds under max tow anyway.
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Like I said............get it in the mountains and see what it does.
Biggest hill you got running from OC to the Lake of the Ozarks is a overpass. Capacity and ability are two different things. I said enough on this subject. Glad your happy with your 1/2ton Ford at your elevation , don't get me wrong , I am a Ford fan from hell! :) JMO |
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There is no overkill when it comes to a truck unless you have something like a dually for a 18 ft'er.
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Funny stuff Andy... Colorado I hear what you are saying, but we don't have any mountains here in Mo, tall hills yes but no snow caps lol. Now on the other hand if I were taking the boat through the mountains I would use my motorhome, but it would seem kinda silly to take a boat into the mountains lol. Just kidding. My onlly real main concern was the weight and as mentioned stopping. I guess I had a brain fart not to think the trailer had brakes and thats half the issue. Its not as you say the pulling its the stopping, with both my truck and the trailer breaks along with non mountains area's not a problem.
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Colorado: This is a typical mo winter as well as our mountains. I have 5k acres 72 miles west of st. Louis so this is a look from my road through my pastures. Not so big compared to a mountain lolhttp://http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/...5150/tb069.jpg
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Sure looks pretty. I bet it's really colorful in the fall , huh?
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