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Jeff Barnett 10-10-2007 09:23 PM

What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
I've been wondering this for awhile seems boat makers do like 250 255 235 etc. is this 25 feet and a few extra inches or something? or is it just model ID's

Z 202 10-10-2007 09:32 PM

To the best of my understanding 5" is the answer to the title of the thread.

My Shabah 202 is 20' 2" from what I was told. For wharfage fees I gave the marina a length of 20' otherwise they would round up the 2" to the next foot, and charge me apropriately... :worry_to_laugh:

WetWilly 10-11-2007 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Z 202 (Post 2000)
To the best of my understanding 5" is the answer to the title of the thread.

My Shabah 202 is 20' 2" from what I was told. For wharfage fees I gave the marina a length of 20' otherwise they would round up the 2" to the next foot, and charge me apropriately... :worry_to_laugh:

As far as rounding up, I think someone at Mariah had the same fun... Ours is a Talari Z240 so you'd think 24' but the book says the LOA is 23' 4", go figure. :confused:

Maybe it's with the swim platform but then that would make her like a Z248 or something like that... :blink:

Now my head really hurts,
WetWilly

moondance100 10-12-2007 07:07 AM

Without wading through all the brochures, I"m guessing that one of those models is a cuddy and the other is a bowrider. The hull is likely he same.

Just my guess!

mmiller19 09-13-2008 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Barnett (Post 1999)
I've been wondering this for awhile seems boat makers do like 250 255 235 etc. is this 25 feet and a few extra inches or something? or is it just model ID's

Original Mariah employee here. I was heavily involved in the prototype process from 91 to 98 and would like to hopefully clarify this. Initially the "2" designation began in '94 when we began designing boats with the windshield "wing" on the deck (the 212 Shabah was the first) all boats in the future that had the "wing" was designated a "2" ending number (182, 192, 202, 212, & 272 Shabahs and Barchettas). Any boats that were "wingless" were given a zero ending number (180, 190, 200, 240 Talaris). Boats with a "5"ending number were cuddy cabin (275,255,235). Deck boats were given a "4" designation (204, 214, 244) and the few 18 foot outboards that we made were given a "3" designation (183). The closed decks that we made (no cabin just closed deck) were given a "1" designation (191,201). Obviously the beginning of the number was the length of the boat in feet plus or minus a few inches. Let me know if I can help with anything else! CHEERS!

P.S. another little tidbit. In your boat serial # the letter just before the end of the number designates the month the boat was manufactured. a = jan etc.....

WetWilly 09-13-2008 06:55 AM

I guess there has to be an exception to the rule so I guess it's 215Talari's 96 215 Talari. Ends in "5" so it's a cuddy, but it's a Talari and isn't it "wingless"? :confused:

My head hurts again...
WetWilly

mmiller19 09-13-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WetWilly (Post 10257)
I guess there has to be an exception to the rule so I guess it's 215Talari's 96 215 Talari. Ends in "5" so it's a cuddy, but it's a Talari and isn't it "wingless"? :confused:

My head hurts again...
WetWilly

Not really an exception. The "5" designates it as a cuddy while the "Talari" name designates it as wingless. The only thing unique about the 215 is that it was the only cuddy we made during that time that did not have a "wing". All cuddys were going to be called "Davanti" but since this one didn't have the wing it was called a "Talari". I know that some of this might not make sense but we did a LOT of things on the fly as you could imagine. To make it simple, Shabah, Barchetta, and Davanti all have the windshield "wing" or "hump" and Talari doesn't. Pretty much that simple. The name AND number of the boat identify what it was not just one or the other. I can understand your confusion though. Hope this clarifies.

P.S. Keep in mind that we weren't a HUGE company with a lot of burocracy. Jimmy might very well have walked out of his office one day and said "This boat doesn't have the hump on the deck we should be calling it a Talari!" only to come back three months later after receiving a dealer call and say "This boat is a cuddy we should be calling it a Davanti!" Again, we did a LOT of things on the fly!!

P.P.S. To your point, yes the boat was incorrectly named in 95.

WetWilly 09-14-2008 09:26 AM

Thanks mmiller19, that helped immensely! Of course the aspirin probably didn't hurt either! :D

WetWilly

wonsnam 10-09-2008 03:05 AM

Now I'm confussed.
 
I just brought a 1996 Z201 Talari which is a bowrider, shouldn't the one disignate it as a close deck.

anthonybradley 10-09-2008 08:00 PM

So what does the 6 in my '98 Z216 signify?

Thanks, Anthony

MariahMan 10-09-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by anthonybradley (Post 10726)
So what does the 6 in my '98 Z216 signify?

Thanks, Anthony

My guess is 21' 6"

anthonybradley 10-10-2008 05:11 PM

No, its only 21', no 6", always wondered what the 6 was for. Maybe it was just to make people think it was bigger than it actually was when it came to buy them.

64*thunderbolt 11-01-2009 01:44 AM

Re: What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
Mmiller19 this is very interesting,what does the windsheild wing on the deck look like ?i have a 96 shabah z210, what is ment by [ wing-less ] i have to belive that because mariah was not a [ huge company without a lot of burocracy ] is the reason for such a beautiful boat that truly is in a class by it`s slef

Z 202 11-01-2009 01:04 PM

Re: What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 64*thunderbolt (Post 19079)
Mmiller19 this is very interesting,what does the windsheild wing on the deck look like ?i have a 96 shabah z210, what is ment by [ wing-less ] i have to belive that because mariah was not a [ huge company without a lot of burocracy ] is the reason for such a beautiful boat that truly is in a class by it`s slef

Click on the My Mariah link in my signature. Notice how the top of the windshield meets the hull in a smooth line as you go back to the sunpad . I believe those are the wings Mmilller is referring to.

Dredd 11-02-2009 03:08 PM

Re: What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
And mine, which is an example of no wings.

http://www.mariahownersclub.com/foru...irate-ship.jpg

64*thunderbolt 11-02-2009 11:33 PM

Re: What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z 202 (Post 19082)
Click on the My Mariah link in my signature. Notice how the top of the windshield meets the hull in a smooth line as you go back to the sunpad . I believe those are the wings Mmilller is referring to.

YES,M.M. THATS THE WAY MINE IS. I LOVE THE SMOOTH LINES, SLEAK, IT LOOKS LIKE YOURS, EXCEPT IT`S A Z 210, SO I GUESS IT HAS '' WINGS '' :wink_thumbup:

Dredd 11-02-2009 11:37 PM

Re: What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
I just feed mine Red Bull when she wants wings. :D

robetello 08-18-2010 01:18 AM

Re: What is the difference between a z250 and z255
 
My Mariah has the designation Talari Z209 and it has a wing if i am looking at the right thing.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Bob


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