'96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Had her out for only the 2nd time since I had a different motor installed (blew the first one pretty much immediately after buying the boat). After about an hour of running we were thankfully close to the dock when the alarm started sounding at idle. If I give it just the least bit of throttle the alarm would stop but that was enough to scare me into getting her out of the water. Unfortunately there was a bit of a wait so I turned the boat off and waited and drifted. I'd have to start it up every 10 minutes or so to correct our course and get us heading back towards the ramp, but for some reason it began starting hard. Normally it pops off instantly but it took 2-3 tries to get it started now. This repeated itself 3 times before it was finally our turn to get to the ramp, by this time it wouldn't start at all and I had to swim it to the trailer.

I have a wiring issue somewhere and the gauges aren't functioning all the time and I have no idea if I can trust them. The temp was reading in the normal range most of the day but the needle had dropped all the way below 100 when this issue started so I'm assuming the gauge went dead again.

I hooked it up to the hose after I got it home and still can't get it started. Tried 5-6 times.

I feel like I'm gonna be on my 3rd engine soon...

Any ideas on whats going on?

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

First, is the lanyard kill switch in the RUN position? Are you sure it's getting fuel? I assume it's a carb engine, so you can check pretty easily by having someone pump the throttle while you look down the throat of the carb for gas squirting out from the accelerator pump.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Yeah I checked the kill switch even switched it back and forth a few times. I'll have to check for gas in the carb tomorrow but the fuel filter is transparent and full of gas so I would think there'd be some in the carb

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

I would be on the phone with the shop that put the motor in first thing int he morning. I am sure it was not cheap.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

haha, long story short I had the original owner and his "boat mechanic" replace the first, blown engine with a used motor. cost me about $1300 when i'd have probably paid around $3500-$4000 at my local marina to get things going again. unfortunately it looks like i got what i paid for and in the end i'm gonna have 10k in what was supposed to be a 5k boat.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

there is definitely gas getting into the carb, i verified that, so it seems to be a spark issue...and considering the wiring problems i'm having with the gauges i wouldn't be the least surprised to see these two issues connected somehow.

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In my experience, when 12V DC acts "weird" you are likely to find your problem is a ground somewhere. I would start at the negative battery post and follow where the wires lead checking every ground. Grab each ground location and see if it moves, and visually check for corrosion. Also, check the big master plug for the engine.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

might there be a list of common ground wires/locations? the way these guys threw this thing together it feels like looking for a needle in a haystack

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Mike, pull a spark plug and check for spark. If you don't have spark, we will go through the check list of possible parts that have gone out. Sounds like what mine did and it turned out to be the distributor gear. Easy fix.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Doesn't appear to be spark, I pulled a plug wire, stuck a screwdriver in it and laid it across some bare metal on the engine block and didn't get any kind of spark when i turned it over. What about the points? Should I just replace those?

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Ok so found the damn coil just dangling off the back of the engine, looks busted in the center and a loose ground wire floating around in the vicinity. Where the hell is this thing supposed to be attached lol

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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Not sure where your busted ground wire goes. Try moving it in the arc that the wire allows to find where it could possibly go. You will be needing a new coil for sure. There is no way the boot can seal with the tower missing.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

The setup I have bypasses what you're describing. The boot you're talking about goes to this thing on the left of the distributor and I have no idea why or what it is. Long story short though I solved it. When the coil fell off of wherever the hell it was incompetently mounted it yanked a positive wire loose. Once I reconnected it she fired right up
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So, what in the hell is that module to the left of the distributor with the rinky-dink orange wire nut on top? Incidentally that is the wire that runs to the coil that popped loose and caused this problem in the first place. Why would it be set up this way instead of just running the distributor straight to the coil?

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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Yikes. Marretted wires on a marine application is bad news brother. Theres weather proof fitting for this. If thats a copper only marrette and its twisting aluminum wires, just asking for quick corrosion.


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5.7l 350 mag
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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Even with anti oxidization lube even with low voltage, ( dc) electricity will find ( or make) an easy path to ground. Just like our outdrives, if the boats electrical isn't bonded properly, different alloys combined with electricity and moisture, its a chess game. Lol


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5.7l 350 mag
Bravo III

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Yeah there's a reason I only paid 1300 for the entire engine replacement... This is what I get lol


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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

I would still like to know what that module is that wired between the distributor and coil


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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Wouldn't that be your ignition sensor?


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5.7l 350 mag
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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

I have no idea haha I thought the distributor usually went straight to the coil


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Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Im curious now, maybe brain belcher or someone with a ton of motor knowledge will reply, normally, the guys will take a minute and set things straight. There's a lot of knowledgeable owners on this site!


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5.7l 350 mag
Bravo III

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

For whatever reason the mechanic who installed your engine included two ignition coils. The round coil that was loose is from an early model while the squarish module that is actually attached to the distributor is from a later model. You definitely don't need both coils! I would bring your boat to good mechanic ASAP and have him clean up the wiring. Any mechanic who uses wire nuts and leaves an extra ignition coil in place probably took a bunch of other short cuts that will also require attention.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Thank you that is very helpful! I just need to know how to remove the old coil and still keep this thing running haha


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I believe its guys like hudson river steve and brian and mikey t who make these forums a worthwhile donation to become a contributing member. Its hard to give back all this knowledge they take time to share, this is why i became a contributing member, not because i have all the knowledge but i feel ive taken a lot from this site, and feel its a way of giving back. Ive leant a crapload from day 1... Havent seen andy b around in a while, if you guys havent met him on here he's quite the character!!! Lmao! His boat hates water.


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5.7l 350 mag
Bravo III

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

Probably a non-issue at this point - I'm pretty sure the engine seized up on me on the water today. It stopped responding to throttle snappily so I turned it around and head back towards the ramp and about 15 seconds later the engine stopped and it did not sound pretty. After that it wouldn't crank at all. Oil is fine, temp was 175 (if the gauge is to be trusted). Didn't smell too hot. No idea what happened but knowing the guys who installed it I'm not too surprised.

Re: '96 Talari - alarm sounding at idle only, then she died :(
 

No good Mike523 :( keep us posted. Hunter12345, I agree 100% with your statement. This site has been a god send for me! I talk it up on the Facebook Mariah Club site every chance I get!