Draining tilt,trim,fluid reservoir
My Alpha1 stern drive won't go up or down. but, the motor will still work. Has water in it due to being milky in color. Will fluid drain out of reservoir by taking off lines itself or can you turn on trim switch on and let motor pump it out? Is the system self bleeding after replacing fluid. Will the air work itself out.
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Hello Douglas,
According to the Merc manual, the trim system is self bleeding through a process of up and down cycles, also, there are a few more steps involved for new or empty trim rams. The most difficult part will be getting all the bad oil/water out of the rams as flushing the pump is fairly easy. You may want to consider becoming a contributing member, there are various levels that will give you access to a growing library of brochures, wiring diagrams, and all sorts of other things related to Mariah boats including service manuals for Mercruiser and Volvo. For example, you will find the trim system bleeding instructions on page 5A-7 of the manual. This link will take you to the contributions page so you can see what each level has to offer: Click here Keep us posted on you progress with your trim system. Good luck, WetWilly |
Alpha1 tilt,and trim
Today, I opened up the lines on the stern drive. Fluid drained out slowly. Sure enough,fluid was milky. Stern drive came down as from being stuck in up position. Turned on up-down trim button for a short time. Not to over heat motor. Did the same with trailer button. Still can't figure out what the trailer button does. Placed clear zip lock bags around openings of open lines to catch fluid, and to watch for the new fluid to coming out. Stern drive locked in the down position after taking off lines. Lifting up and down on drive worked out bad fluid from rams. Filled with milky fluid too. Moving drive up and down help removed the bad stuff out.
Filled fluid reservoir with 10-30 wt. oil. Started to see good fluid coming out. Just had 3 quarts to use and ran out of oil. Going to get more tomorrow. Let you know what happens. |
Great work Douglas!
It depends on what type of throttle/shifter controller you have, typically, your trailer button raises the outdrive above the maximum up trim angle for gaining extra clearance for trailering your boat so you don't scrap up the skeg like many of us have done... It also allows you to very carefully use this higher position for maneuvering in very shallow water, but be forewarned, keep the RPMs near idle and don’t use this mode very long as there is a lot of stress on the drive shaft U-joints and gimbal bearing due to the severe angle of the outdrive. After your finished removing the water, let me know and we can go over the various outdrive controls and how they function if you like. I am curious as to how the water got in there in the first place, We had oil like yours and it was due to failed ram end seals, had to replace the starboard ram because it wasn't rebuildable. I'll be looking forward to your latest news, WetWilly |
Alpha1 tilt,and trim
I'll try taking off both rams and spray dishwasher soap on them while under pressure. Watching for fluid or air bubbles.
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Aphia1 Stern Drive Problem Update
Sprayed liquid dish-washing soap on rams and found no leaks or air bubbles, reinstalled rams and lines to drive. Lowered drive down by hand. Used a Gallon of 10-30 wt. oil through reservoir to clean out milky fluid. Plastic baggies around lines where very useful. Tried my trim and trailer switches and everything works!! Hope this helps someone else.:wink_thumbup:
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Good stuff Douglas. Glad you were able to get her fixed!
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Hi Douglas,
I agree with Mikey, good stuff! Glad you were able to get the trim working, some oil is far cheaper than a ram or two. Let us know how she holds uo after you've taken she out a few times! WetWilly |
Aphia1 Stern Drive Problem Update
Going to try it out this week. Give you an update later! :wink_thumbup:
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I got a bunch of water in my trip pump reservior through the yellow cap. I think Mercruiser even had a service bulletin about this. I took a big wake from a house boat over the stern while stationary and water poured in from the vents. It smoked my bilge blower and got water in the trim pump reservior.
HTH ~J |
Ouch, sorry to here what happened jmills224! Well if it's any consolation, as for water in the trim, your not alone.
I was wondering, aren't your vents ducted towards the bilge? I ask because our vents have ducting running from them, one vent has two ducts, one to the blower and the other ends towards the bilge. The the other vent has just one duct towards the bilge so if water does enter either vent, it's diverted towards the bilge away from any important machinery or wiring. Hope you get it fixed soon! WetWilly |
Plugged Drains
Both drains in stall seem to be not attached to anything. Water must just run into the bildge. Came to the conclusion that weight of boat on the trailer might be causing the water from not draining. After buying this boat a few weeks ago and traveling 600 miles with it on the trailer. The frame support in the middle was found to have cracked from the weight of boat resting on fenders now. Water may not be able enter bildge. With the weather being so bad this week, waiting to float boat and get welding of the trailer fixed, and raise the bunker boards up. Hope this is the problem!!
I'm taking pictures of the boat on the trailer. |
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Anyways, to get the watery oil out I used a turkey baster to suck out the reservior every time I got back from the lake. I eventually got all of it. ~J |
Hey jmills224,
Glad you got the water out and the ducting sorted out too! Turkey baster huh? Going to have to keep one of those in my tool kit now.... :yes_grin: Have you tested the blower with water in the loop yet? I ask because if the loop does get filled and the blower isn't strong enough, it won't blow the water out so the duct will be clogged and any time you do turn on the blower, well the vapors won't get sucked out... WetWilly |
WetWilly,
I burned a small hole at the bottom of the loop with a wood burning iron. When you kick the blower on it clears it pretty fast:wink_thumbup: I'm in Houston, TX right now but when I get back to good ole Oklahoma I'll get you a picture of it. There is about 2.5feet of tube in the loop alone. ~J p.s. When using the turkey baster to remove oil. Take the bulb off and drop a ball bearing thats bigger than the end. It will act like a check valve so you don't dribble(as much) oil everywhere. You have to take the bulb off to empty but its worth it. |
Test Drove Sterndrive
Took the boat yesterday and stern drive worked without any problems. Hoping that only water in reservoir caused stern drive from not responding to up and down trim. Draining milky fluid from system did the job. :wink_thumbup:
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Doug,
Thats great news:yes_grin: ~J |
Hi Douglas,
Great to hear it! So now it's time to get out and start having fun! :wink_thumbup: WetWilly |
Same thing
Thanks for the info on how to do this. I just did mine last night and it works now and the fluid is clean. I think mine got water in it over time from previous owners and the yellow cap with the hole in it. (neglect on the part of the former owner didn't help either). Just remember to be careful to point those lines into the place you want them to drain. I forgot one of the times and sprayed oil all over the place and had to clean it up.:worry_to_laugh:
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Hi jakejorgenson, Thanks for the "Thanks"! Our members really enjoy helping each other out! WetWilly |
Re: Draining tilt,trim,fluid reservoir
I just completed the same procedure on my Z275. The problem seems to be rainwater entering the the filler cap.
When I parked my boat at home for winter it was tilted to starboard. Water filled the ledge under the engine hatch and overflowed onto the trim assembly. I used my Oil vacuum pump to suck out the bad oil-water mix. Tested trim up and down about 10 cycles after refilling with fresh 10W30. Oil got a little milky so I sucked that out and tried again. One the third time the oil stayed clear. I'll make sure that the whole boat is covered this winter. I may also install drains at each corner so water goes directly into the bilge. (my boat is not covered in summer). Just a thought. |
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